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Old 03-14-2019, 06:53 PM   #1
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Hello from Mexico

This is going to be a boring thread, basically, because this project is a long term building that I have in mind, maybe this is going to take the rest of this year

I jus finished the building of my first crawler, a hilux truggy but I cannot resist e temptation to build another, this time an UNIMOG

This is going to be very expensive for me, I live in Mexico so is impossible to find the parts that I need at my local hobby shop so I have to pay always expensive shipping cost, also the Mexican peso is so devaluated VS US dollar so I can not invest a huge quantity on a single order


The following pics are the inspiration for my build

Team Jccmog










I just order a couple of parts the next post will be the "Vehicle Build Sheet" to keep a record of the parts that I already ordered

I'm a newbie on this hobby but I am totally hooked to RC car building, I'm never going to buy a RTR again,

I will really appreciate your suggestions and tips for this building, searching online and youtube are my main source of information for this hobby, the shared building experience on this forum has been really helpful for me, I really envy the huge RC community that exists in the USA and how you help each other on this hobby

Kudos to some builders that I have read before pulling the trigger for this build


Holt

Norton

cooper_xl

Angus_Beef

Traildriver

robysoldtamiya

Ty@Tekin

Joonatin

KillerBlackbird


finally, sorry about my bad English skills

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Old 03-14-2019, 07:59 PM   #2
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Welcome. I worked out of Tabasco for several years and can see how logistics could be an issue. I spotted this in Ciudad del Carmen. Guy bought it in the D.F. and was headed to a resort in Cancun.


If you can find anyone with a 3d printer it would help out as well.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:45 PM   #3
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I am going to use the Vehicle Build Sheet, shared by harleydesigns.com

that will be very helpful for this build.

So far those are the parts that I already Ordered

FRONT AXLE

Vanquish Products Currie Portal F9 SCX10 II Front Axle Black Anodized VPS08350 $299.999
Vanquish Products Currie Portal Overdrive Gear Set VPS08353 $32.99
Ruddog Aluminum Offset Servo Horn (Black) (25T-ProTek/Ruddog/Savox) RDGRP-0085 $11.99


REAR AXLE

Vanquish Products Currie Portal F9 SCX10 II Rear Axle Kit (Black) VPS08360 $199.99
Wertymade Vanquish Currie F9 Rear Skid Plate WTY-WM-75 $34.99


TRASMISSION

SuperShafty Bombproof Transmission for Axial SCX10 & SCX10.2 (5mm OutPuts) SS1010C $199.95
SuperShafty Exclusive Bombproof MIP HD Driveline - *1 Axial SCX10.2 RtR kit* SSHDSCX102R $69.95
ATOP RC Aluminum Center Skid Transmission Plate for SCX10 II AT-SCX10II-03 $17.08


BODY/INTERIORS

Mercedes Benz Unimog U 406 Hardbody (B-006) $109.00
Front Bumper for Unimog 406, 416 DOKA (X-06 $20.00
Wipers for Unimog 406, 416 DOKA (X-067) $5.00
Door Handle for Unimog 406 (X-066) $3.00
Mercedes Unimog / Universal Fenders, (F-004) $15.00
Mercedes Unimog Snorkel (S-009) $12.00
Mercedes Unimog Flexible Mirrors (M-010) $8.00
RC4WD Axial SCX10 Universal Front Bumper Mounts RC4ZS0987 $9.99


ELECTRONICS


Tekin Hotwire 3.0 Bluetooth USB Interface TT1452 $57.65
Tekin RX4 Hardbox Waterproof Sensored / Sensorless D2 Crawler ESC TT2000 $159.90
Tekin ROC412EP BL Crawler Motor 2300kv TEKTT2623 $139.99
Futaba R304SB T-FHSS 4-Channel Receiver FUTL7680 69.99
Gens ace 5000mAh 11.1V 50C 3S1P HardCase Lipo Battery $55.42
Castle Creations BEC 2.0 Waterproof BEC Voltage Regulator (15 Amp) CSE010-0153-00 $45.99
ProTek RC Braided Brushless Motor Sensor Cable (150mm) PTK-2108 $5.49
ProTek RC 370TBL "Black Label" Waterproof High Torque Brushless Crawler Servo PTK-370TBL $159.99
Powershift RC Technologies Night Killer Series Big Square Light Pods PWR-01 $16.99
Slidelogy 5mm LED White Headlights 4 LED For 1/10 On-Road Drift Car SDY-0126 $1.90
Slidelogy 3mm 5mm LED Orange & White Headlights 4pcs For 1/10 On-Road Drift Car SDY-0127 $1.90
HeyOK Performance The Lighting Controller HEYTLC $55.99



ROLLING STOCK

Team DC 1:10 Aluminum 1.9 inch Armory Version Beadlock Wheels DC-50973 $48.00
Voodoo KLR/M - 1.9 (x 2 ) $64.00
Voodoo 'PLUS10' 1.9 True 3 Stage Foams (for trucks over 10 lbs) (x2) $30.00
AVID. Axial SCX10 II RTR Bearing Kit AV-AXL-SCXIIRTR $22.00
Robinson Racing Absolute 32P Hardened Pinion Gear (13T) RRP1713 #5.49



CHASSIS AND SUSPENSION

BP Custom GenX Steel SCX10 Chassis Rail Kit BPCGEN6RS $74.99
BP Custom SCX10 CMS Kit BPCSCXCMS $19.99
BP Custom SCX10 Shock Relocation & Lowering Kit BPCSCXSHCK $12.49
Pro-Line Pro-Spec Scaler Shocks (90mm-95mm) x 2 PRO6316-01 $115.98
Hardcore RC SCX10. 2 stainless 10 pcs link kit, S bend SKU 00002 $60.00
BP Custom Winch Servo Mount w/Integrated Fairlead BPCWNCHMNTFL $13.50

TOOLS

Bernzomatic TS8000 - High Intensity Trigger Start Torch $1414 Pesos

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Old 03-14-2019, 08:58 PM   #4
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Welcome. I worked out of Tabasco for several years and can see how logistics could be an issue. I spotted this in Ciudad del Carmen. Guy bought it in the D.F. and was headed to a resort in Cancun.

If you can find anyone with a 3d printer it would help out as well.
Real UNIMOG should be an incredible vehicle, I have seen videos of how these vehicles perform and wow! that blows my mind, but definitely 1:1 is a hobby for rich people,

https://youtu.be/1iQtn6Abb9s

As you said 3d printer would help, there are some places in my city where 3D printers are available, but I haven't try that option

I know nothing about CAD designing but I have noticed some websites were 3D files are available for sale
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:16 AM   #5
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Check Thingverse and a there’s a few other sites available. May not have anything specific for the Unimog body but you can find some for specific a chassis and some scale accessories.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:15 AM   #6
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Checking some blueprints as photo references of unimog 406 I realize that the real one has portals axles, I Already ordered the vanquish rockjock axles because I really like the design but portals will be more scale looking for this project

now I'm debating If I should return the rockjock and get the portals or keep going with the rockjock axles


some references of the real unimog axles






this is the vanquish rockjock axle



this is the vanquish portal axle


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Old 03-23-2019, 12:14 PM   #7
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Checking some blueprints as photo references of unimog 406 I realize that the real one has portals axles, I Already ordered the vanquish rockjock axles because I really like the design but portals will be more scale looking for this project

now I'm debating If I should return the rockjock and get the portals or keep going with the rockjock axles

This really depends on you...It is truly your truck and you can build it to your liking. That is one of the things I love so much about this hobby. The portals will give it a bit more realism, but the Rock Jocks will also look amazing.
I bought the Vanquish portals for my Unimog build, but I found it was not going to work for my build since my truck was a running build before the portals were released.
Good luck with your build, I will be following along.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:55 PM   #8
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This really depends on you...It is truly your truck and you can build it to your liking. That is one of the things I love so much about this hobby. The portals will give it a bit more realism, but the Rock Jocks will also look amazing.
I bought the Vanquish portals for my Unimog build, but I found it was not going to work for my build since my truck was a running build before the portals were released.
Good luck with your build, I will be following along.
Thanks for your suggestions, I didn't notice your Unimog building thread before, (Mercedes Unimog crawler) truly inspiring for a newbie like me , thanks for sharing
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Old 03-30-2019, 10:11 AM   #9
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I change my mind: I am going to install vanquish portals. those parts will be super expensive I'm sure there will look awesome I hope they perform well on this project
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Old 03-30-2019, 10:53 AM   #10
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Nice! I'll be watching this build closely!
I'll be interested to hear how those vanquish portals work out for you.
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Old 03-30-2019, 01:04 PM   #11
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Nice! I'll be watching this build closely!
I'll be interested to hear how those vanquish portals work out for you.
Thanks for your interest this is going to be a very long process; A lot of parts still pending to be ordered, Also I have to deal with huge delivery times some parts take months to arrive,

For me, using the portal axles is like flip a coin, I am not sure how that axle will perform, I don't even have seen that in person, just videos and reviews, nobody in my city had something similar, I just hope that they match on my project and that they perform well
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I'm sure you will enjoy them.

A Unimog RC deserves scale portal axles!

I am also watching your build thread with interest...
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Old 04-17-2019, 04:22 PM   #13
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I'm sure you will enjoy them.

A Unimog RC deserves scale portal axles!

I am also watching your build thread with interest...
Thanks, I ordered some parts but I had just received the chassis, the wheels, and the front portal axle, so progress on this build will be very slow

I think I will install Tekin electronics on this rig; I am having some heating notice some heating issues using Holmes TrailMaster BLE Pro + Puller Pro BL (2700kV) so I don't want the same brand, still pending to decide which motor roc412 or rock412hd
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Old 05-06-2019, 10:35 AM   #14
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That´s it, most of the parts are already ordered $2,182.08 USD invested (excluding the shipping cost) I hope that my wife never see this post that is a lot of money for toys, I'm not going to order anything else until I receive all the parts I have to wait at least one month, then I can start with the building of this project. I hope that the parts will match together, I am afraid about the link size because I'm not sure of the total wheelbase size of my project.

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Old 05-17-2019, 11:02 AM   #15
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Some parts still on the way including electronics and body but I'm tired of waiting so I'm going to start this project ensembling the parts that I already have

So let's build the Vanquish Products Currie Portal F9 SCX10 II Rear Axle Kit



Basically, you just need the basic metric hex drivers 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5mm, and 5.5 and 7mm nut driver, you also want to have some marine grease for gears and oil for bearings.



Be carefully selecting the bearing size during building, I notice that I made some mistakes installing the bearings. a Vernier Caliper tool was helpful




an hour later this if the final result



the antigacho Unimog building project officially begins
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:18 AM   #16
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Ah huevo.
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Old 05-18-2019, 11:31 AM   #17
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Lets to continue working with the axles
time to build this:
Vanquish Products Currie Portal F9 SCX10 II Front Axle
Vanquish Products Currie Portal Overdrive Gear Set



You only will need the basic RC hex drivers and hex nut tools to put this together



It was an easy job up to the steep when I had to install the up and bottom portal gears, My intention was the install the Portal Overdrive Gear Set, but I can't make it fit inside the compartment, the size of the gears apparently is not compatible

After some measures and teeth counting I notice that I have the wrong gears, I confirm that because according to Vanquish website the portal axles have a gear reduction of 1.67:1 (18/30) and they recommend the Optional Overdrive Ratio of 1.4:1 (20/2 for the front axle only.


So I double check the gears included and I notice this

my front portal axles include these gears:
top.....20 teeth x2
bottom.....28 teeth x 2


Portal Overdrive Gear Set includes these gears:

20 teeth x2
30 teeth x 1
28 teeth x1



So I found that my front portal axles already include the Optional Overdrive Ratio of 1.4:1, (20/2 not the usual reduction of 1.67:1, (18/30); and the Portal Overdrive Gear include wrong size gears. So double mispackaging

I wrote to vpsupport@vanquishproducts.com explaining the situation, to see if they can help me. I had found that most of the time companies do not support to international customers, let's see what they will comment about it, I don't know if they can Help me because I ordered these parts at amain hobbies and RPP hobbies



At least I could finish assembling the axles so while I wait for the Vanquish reply I can continue with the building of this project

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I had issues with wrong gears in the overdrive kit, where the VP support helped me out really fast, sending new parts to Germany. That was a nice piece of customer service from VP: In mailresponse and delivering both.

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Old 05-20-2019, 04:49 PM   #19
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I don't have a manual to follow for this building so I found some photo referencces at Instagram looking for #BPCChassis, I know that there are some awesome chassis altertives out there like toyzuki, brazinscalerc, TSS SCXHR CHASSIS, Northwest Scaler Designs SCX10 II Stainless Steel Truggy Frame Rail Set, Xtreme Racing Axial SCX10 3mm Carbon Fiber Frame Rails, etc but I like the BP Custom GenX Steel SCX10 Chassis Rail Kit because It has multiple shock positions alternatives and according to description it is compatible with portal axle configurations.

The wheelbase information for this chassis is not available at amain hobbies so I got in contact with Bruce Pease through the "contact us" section at BPC website, he kindly answer that I can go from under 12 in to 12 and 1/2, 13 inches on the wheelbase depending on what lower links I run




The BPC chassis is compatible with scx10 geometry so apparently, any center skid plate will work I choose the ATOP-RC Aluminum Center Skid Transmission Plate

I am planning to build this rig under the usual 313mm wheelbase (12 inches 1/4). now I am afraid that it will be too long, considering that the Unimog cab is very short, I don't know I will deal with that later

This is how the supershafty transmission looks mounted, looks good next to the Tekin motor.



I'm considering to paint or powder coat the chassis rails, but I am not sure if that would be really necessary. to be honest I like the raw appearance

After mounting the transmission and motor I hope that the front and rear driveshafts could clear the X braces, otherwise, I have to adjust the battery location.



that's all for today

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Old 05-20-2019, 07:05 PM   #20
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Mmmmm. Looks burly. Can not wait for the trial run.
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