Wheelbase vs trailing arm length

[Drm31078]

Are VP trailing arms any better than Dlux trailing arms?

Also, my understanding is that wraith uppers will fit with Twin Hammer trailing arms with stock axles?

[SCREAMER]

I would say no because the DLux arms are made from 7075 and VPs are not. Blue Monkey also makes their TAs out of 7075. It's stronger and slides better over rocks. I personally don't like the way the hollow balls are held in the ends as well on the VP arms. They do look nice though.

Wraith uppers will be too long with TH lower arms on the stock truss and may push the pinion angle up too high. Wraith uppers are perfect for the DLux truss or a Currie truss since it is moved back farther than the stock truss.

[Drm31078]

Thanks for the response. Did not know that about the material difference between vp and DLux.

I have some wraith length incision uppers. I have extra jato and revo ends. Maybe I could get them to fit or is the difference in length just too big for use with TH trailing arms?

Also, when you refer to a Currie truss, is that the same as the "HD" truss? Or the truss that only comes with the Currie axles? Or are they the same?

[SCREAMER]

I know the VP HD truss fits the stock axle and vise versa but I'm not sure if it moves the upper link mount back or not. I would think probably not. The Currie trusses are different and only used on Currie axles. If you already have the links, it sure doesn't hurt to try them but even with Revo ends on both ends, a Wraith upper is around 122mm long and you need something closer to 117mm long.

[Drm31078]

Dang. Maybe have to go wraith length TA or get DLux truss I guess.

[SCREAMER]

You could just get a set of the $7 Traxxas 5318 links that MNorby used on the last page. They put his pinion at a good angle.

[MNorby]

The traxxas ones with Jato ends might give a good angle without unthreading the revo end like I did but its really not unthreaded much and the revo ends are stronger from what I understand. I'm not worried about my current rear link and pinion angle setup one bit. I have my VP tierod unthreaded about the same to get my toe angle correct too, can just see 1 thread out of the rod end.

[SCREAMER]

Although, any excuse to buy one of these beauties is a good reason. Major strength upgrade and look badass too. You get tuning options with these as well with link mounting location. If you're going shorter for better crawlability, go with TH length. If you do Wraith length, you'll just wish later that you had gone shorter. Wraith length should have been stock length in my opinion. TH length performs best and looks most correct scale wise. I've seen a couple guys with Wraith length say, "I shoulda got the TH length to begin with". The Yeti arms are just way too long and give no real benefits over Wraith length. This is from first hand testing. Even my go fast Bomber has Wraith length TAs.

[2-shot]

I've seriously considered trying the Wraith length TA's on my BGR Bomber. I think if the wheelbase was shortened a bit, it would look so much better. Not to mention, it would perform better.

[Drm31078]

Anyone have some UCFab wraith length trailing arms they are willing to part with? PM me.

[84yoda]

Originally Posted by Drm31078

Anyone have some UCFab wraith length trailing arms they are willing to part with? PM me.

Curious why you sold your TH length? You could have put a longer rod end on one said and had wraith length trailing arms using your TH length arms.

[Drm31078]

Dang! I never thought about that. Where were you before in this discussion. Ha!

[84yoda]

Lol, you never mentioned it before otherwise I would have said something. Also running longer rod ends on both ends would have got you yeti length too.

[YeeP]

After my first comp with the th length I have to say that they worked well. I wouldn't say that that I could tell an over the top difference but time will tell.

I did calculate anti-squat before the change and will be redoing the Calc just for a comparison.

[Drm31078]

Not sure if this is old news but JEC making their ss trailing arms in wraith length now. $65 shipped.

[SCREAMER]

I have a set of both lengths now and they are so nice. I really like how the rod ends are so protected and supported by being recessed into the trailing arm. These things slide like butter too.

[Drm31078]

Nice! I just purchased some wraith length.

[powder4breakfast]

Originally Posted by SCREAMER

Even my go fast Bomber has Wraith length TAs.

Screamer, could you post side pics of your 2 Bombers with the 2 different length trailing arms?

I've been waiting for VP to get Yeti trailing get arms back in stock. Maybe I should look into a different length instead.

To play the devil's advocate... with side by sides they say 4 seaters are cheaters due to the longer wheel base helping out on steps. 4 door JK's also show advantage on a lot of trails by getting wheels farther over steps and obstacles where they can then help pull.

I definitely don't know enough about Wraith's, Bombers and Twin Hammers to make any real judgement. I'm just thinking out loud.

[Drm31078]

Post #116 and #117 of this thread.

[powder4breakfast]

Originally Posted by Drm31078

Post #116 and #117 of this thread.

Thank you. I'm learning from so many Bomber threads that they all run together in my head. I didnt realize that I missed all of the previous page of this thread.