03-19-2021, 12:17 AM | #461 |
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| Re: What’s next from Axial?
I wouldn’t say the rig ‘sucks’. It’s absolutely no crawler, that’s for sure. Not meant to be one. It’s impressively capable, though. But the big drawback is that, while driving, one has the constant feeling it’s going to get away from you, and slam uncontrollably into something. The motor choice doesn’t help at all. With this tall gearing, it needs sensored imho. EDIT : After fitting the -quite a bit more sturdy- servo-saver from the Losi LMT, the ‘getting away’ feeling has gone. It steers crisp, reacts promptly on corrections, and even the SVC/AVC works as designed. Though, I don’t use it anymore. Steering is tight enough now. For me it’s no longer necessary. Well. 13-tooth pinion it is, then. Ah well.. Let’s hope they come with a larger spur, or someone finds a larger spur that fits. I’m none too fond of having to purchase the ( probably expensive) 2-speed to get a more useful ratio for general bashing, trailing, and whatnot. My experiences with 2-speeds in general are nót very positive tbh. The GOM being the worst- and the Tamiya 3-speeds, the least troublesome, but far too big as a unit to be useful. The HiLift as well as the Bruiser. From a technical perspective I lóve multi-speed gearboxes, but they are -more often than not- hardly worth the trouble in my toys. Some musings: I dó understand the (marketing) idea behind the power package. With the advent of affordable BL systems, ‘speed’ has become the deciding factor for many that bought an RC on impulse. Heck. Traxxas does not slap the top speeds on the boxes just for Sh..& Giggles. It sells. Big power sells. Nót if that power is at all usable or not. A gazillion China brands sell on speed. ‘Control’ is generally crapola, but that does not matter. Their RTR’s sell like hot-cakes nonetheless. To us, who are a bit deeper invested in their toys, it’s more about control and durability, than brute force. At least for me it is. It’s just a differend mindset. Last edited by Jay-Em; 03-28-2021 at 03:01 PM. |
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03-19-2021, 12:44 AM | #462 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK
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| Re: What’s next from Axial? 53t spur + let’s say a 15t pinion = 68, so any combination of 68 will fit and have the same mesh ie... 56t spur and a 12t pinion |
03-19-2021, 08:25 AM | #463 |
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Wow, reading all of this makes me glad I spent my basher Money on a Losi LMT rather than this "little guy". Ernie |
03-19-2021, 09:01 AM | #464 |
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| Re: What’s next from Axial? Even though I have been a bit critical about it, I still like it, and know that it can still be a very capable rig. It's just going to take some time and money. Once we get other gearing options, I really think all my complaints will be resolved.
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03-19-2021, 12:15 PM | #465 | |
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The ryft is getting a electrics swap next week anyway lol | |
03-19-2021, 03:20 PM | #466 |
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It's advertised as a rock bouncer. It drives exactly like a rock bouncer. My only disappointment is that my front axle (like others) snapped but I have a replacement in the post today under warranty and hopefully tougher. I really like blasting over things with it. Staight lining it or comparing it to crawlers is totally missing the point.
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03-19-2021, 04:56 PM | #467 | |
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03-20-2021, 07:09 AM | #468 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands
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The 2-speed is, indeed, included in the kit if I may believe the leaked building instructions. As is a swaybar. Allthemore reason to wait for the kit if this car tickled your fancy. Steer clear of the RTR, if possible. * Rant-mode engaged* : I stìll say the RTR is utterly overpriced. A bit of a cash-grab by Horizon, reeking of the unpleasant interference of a-technical nincompoops in the beancounter-department. “We didn’t include a swaybar, to improve flex” Oh.. puhleaze, f..off. Stop that Marketing-Pr speech (also known as ‘Lying between your teeth to save your bum) Stick that where the sun don’t shine. You wanted to shave-off a few pennies You miserable gits. ‘Who cares if that mentioned 4S is completely, utterly useless without at least a sway. People will hand-over their cash anyhoo’ Yes. It’s a Rock Bouncer, not a straight-line dragster, or a circuit-speeder, or a crawler. but Réal Rockbouncers sport some impressively big and heavy swaybars for a reason, mìght that little detail have escaped You, Axial ( Am I a bad person for wanting to have all marketing-pr people flogged and sent out on the street covered in tar and feathers?) *grmbll* To be perfectly honest, I would have been fár happier if Axial had gone for a modest 12t 550 brushed -or even a 21t if 3S should remain an option- with a Hobbywing Quickrun 1060, and spent the pennies saved on including a swaybar, and cutting the price by, say, €30.- Okay, It wouldn’t have hit 61km/h on 3s, but that kind of speeds are besides the point for a bouncer anyways. It’s not real junk, mind You. Far from it. I’ve seen worse from Axial in that respect. Say, the SMT10 RTR, that ate all of its gears on ánything more than a mild 540. Forcing one to spend an extra €50.- on steel gears. Or the Exo, with its ill-conceived motormount. Imho not-fit-for-purpose gears and gearboxes are a bigger sin than a material-mishaps in manufacturing of axles( as it now seems to be) Though, having said that, I wonder why the designers never figured out that the high upper-links at the front would slam into the battery-box, and as a result put undue strain on the axle’s underside on hard landings and tumbles. Which are, as rock-bouncers go, inevitable. Last edited by Jay-Em; 03-20-2021 at 08:46 AM. Reason: Felt a rant bubbling-up. |
03-24-2021, 12:33 AM | #469 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lava Lands
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Just got one today, ran it with a 3200 3s in a sandy canal. Had a blast, made me want to build another foff rig. Got home and blew it off and have a fracture in the front axle housing. Can't believe this thing is as weak as everyone has been saying. Do I need to call the shop I got it from to warranty a new housing.? I've built 20+ kits over the past 15 years but never felt that a first day breakage wasn't my fault.
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03-24-2021, 02:16 AM | #470 |
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Horizon are issuing axles cases as warranty replacements without fuss
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03-24-2021, 02:17 AM | #471 |
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03-24-2021, 06:29 PM | #472 |
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Got off the phone with Horizon customer service and should have upgraded plastics axle housings fr./rear this week. Great customer service, just stayed on hold then had them call me later, super easy.
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03-26-2021, 09:39 AM | #473 |
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I have been thinking with the hype around the Ryft that in the next year or two we should see them put out a small rock bouncer/racer, similar to the SCX24.
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03-26-2021, 12:02 PM | #474 |
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Is that here a Ryft post ??? sooooo booooring!! What I actually would love to see from AXIAL is a historical AX10 comeback with modern parts . |
03-28-2021, 06:51 AM | #475 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands
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1/24 bouncer would be fun. I already spotted someone that 3d printed a bouncer cage/chassis for the scx24 Ah, mountain-man. How nice of you to specially drop by to tell us you don’t like it when other people like stuff you don’t like.... |
03-28-2021, 02:36 PM | #476 |
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For the moderators, can we get a ryft sub-forum? With the 2 speed gears out for pre-order and reading the dx3 manual, setting up the shift servo could be problematic. One would think that the included radio would run a shift servo. Seems like the stx3 included in the capra is easier to setup and only 45$ separately.
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03-28-2021, 02:45 PM | #477 |
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You mean the radio that’s with the Ryft RTR? My advice would be to ditch that hunk ‘a junk and get anyother 3-channel radio. The included spektrum is too complex for its own good and rather iffy on the bind/link part. Any other Spektrum 3-channel seems to work fine with the RX. In desperation, after constantly getting unlinked/unbound, I fitted an Absima 6-channnel radio. ( looks like the usual rebadged Chng-Woo-Wong-Pong radio, but seems solid and at the least works reliably, contrary to the Spektrum garbage) Oh, and on a RBX10/Ryft specific Sub-forum, seconded! Last edited by Jay-Em; 03-28-2021 at 02:53 PM. |
03-28-2021, 03:36 PM | #478 |
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I’m pretty much fed up with Horizon at the moment. Countless releases with issues that require the end user to fix. I’m tired of being Horizon Hobbies Beta Test Department. Not enough R&D, under engineered designs , subpar materials, and an overall stick it to the customer attitude. The Capra transmission has an admitted design flaw. Did Horizon fix it? Nope. The SCX10.3 transmission and its clicking issue and worthless 2 speed gearing. Did Horizon address it? Nope The Lasernut rear diff flexes and came with not only poor quality bearings, but it was specked with to small of a bearing from the factory. Horizon fix it? Nope. The LMT has an axle breaking issue. To my knowledge, Horizon hasn’t corrected the issue. Same problem with the RYFT. Under engineered design and sub par quality. These “1/10” rigs keep getting bigger, but Horizon keeps equipping them w/ tiny shocks, bearings, axles, etc... Not to mention the garbage Tx/Rx some of the Horizon releases now include. The rest of the electronics arn’t much better. I shouldn’t have to spend $500.00+ dollars on a new release and they another $5 hundred dollars to address the short comings Horizon sent it out the door with. I wanted a basher. Instead of buying a Arrma(already learned that lesson), I bought a generation or 2 older 1/8 buggy. It’s tough as nails. It’s affordable, and it was engineered with larger components that can take the abuse. I’m worried now as Horizon bought Pro Line. Tires prices immediately went up, how long until the quality goes down? |
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