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08-21-2007, 12:06 PM
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i dont think it would be wize since we already have tons of people and this would make comps an all day event kind of think not just 2-4 hours....
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08-21-2007, 12:12 PM
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| Old guy   Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northwest Arkie-saw and we got ROCKS!
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To me 90% of the fun is make it better.But I have competed in spec clasees before in other r/c sports, and it is fun.Then it's how can drive.
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08-21-2007, 12:13 PM
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I agree ditch the Supers. I like to encourage people to build there rigs and modify them. I think going out to a comp and seeing all the different rigs is half the fun. It wouldn't be cool to see a bunch of AX10's that all look the same and had no personal touches. It would make crawling like electric off road, everyone running the same car. Sure it comes down to driver but I like the fact that the "top dogs" in crawling aren't just "drivers" they are builders too. Not only that, but it will be harder to talk people into buying hop ups. "I just run spec class". why would they want to go any further. If you show up to a comp and you get beat it makes you want to build a better rig (if that is were you thought you fell short) but if you show up and win with a stock AX10 why would you want to buy any hop ups or tweek your rig or make a new one. If you drive good enough to win with a AX10 then that is cool. Not to mention you are trying to make comps run faster and a new class would take that much longer to get through the comp. I think that the AX10 is a great kit and welcome them to show up and compete but having their own class is just Lame. Just my thoughts |
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08-21-2007, 12:18 PM
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- If you have to run the stock body then you've lost me already. It's a great idea for keeping it a spec class, just not my cup o joe running the same thing as everybody else.  -I agree with JIA, it would be a shame to exclude the Novak Rooster Crawler, the first brushed ESC made specifically for crawling, from being used. -I'm not real keen on the servo rule. I'd like to be able to use a servo that will actually turn the tires.  But it's not a deal-breaker either.-Leaving the battery up top is a good idea but will look horrible when I make my tube body. -Wheel weight, I can live with it or without it. No weights would be perfectly reasonable to me. Quote:
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I'd love to see supers replaced with a 14er class that would allow 2.2 or Maxx size wheels and 4ws. I think this would be a great class to see driveshaft trucks battling with clods. Unless Axial becomes the headline sponsor of the Nationals I wouldn't want an Axial only class. Last edited by Grizzly4x4; 08-21-2007 at 12:33 PM. | ||||
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08-21-2007, 12:18 PM
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...and for the record...it always comes down to driver. No matter what the vehicle. If you can't drive for chit the best equipment on Earth isn't going to do anything for you. I raced Spec dragsters. Even ran bushings. It was a tough class to compete in and the result was that the best drivers won...same as with any other class. |
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08-21-2007, 12:19 PM
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| Old guy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northwest Arkie-saw and we got ROCKS!
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Hey I just got me a super going and it rocks.Supers aren't dieing out,Just the people who can't handle them are. |
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08-21-2007, 12:21 PM
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08-21-2007, 12:22 PM
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What Grizz. No 2.2 rear steer?!?! It was just a thought. I like the way the 2.2 class is run.. I agree about the body thing too. (just say no bug bodies  )
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08-21-2007, 12:28 PM
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I think wheel time is more important in a class like this. | |
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08-21-2007, 12:28 PM
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I agree with T' to an extent.I agree that supers are slowly going away.On the other hand I think a Spec class would show everyones true colors.Jasons right it's always the driver but the setup of the rig counts too.If everything is even you couldn't make up excuses about: "Well he had an SW-3 and I had a Black Jack." | |
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08-21-2007, 12:28 PM
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I have always felt that 4ws would kill the essence of the 2.2 class. I would be all for an "opened up" 2.2 class to replace supers though.No bug bodies, yea. | |
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08-21-2007, 12:33 PM
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08-21-2007, 12:34 PM
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Part of being a good driver is knowing how to setup youre car for youre driveing style and skills
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08-21-2007, 12:34 PM
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08-21-2007, 12:39 PM
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08-21-2007, 12:39 PM
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dumming the super is wrong SUPER are the best thing out there. 1st look how much money everone on here have in there SUPERS 1000.00 or not more.i am down with the 14in wheelbase. But how many are too.A super 2.2 class that would be good.here we go with the big $$$ thing again
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08-21-2007, 12:42 PM
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08-21-2007, 12:55 PM
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Earlier today in our MNRCRC thread I posted up a idea for a sport mod scale class. Basicly a class that requires frame rails, and a truck or suv body. Also limited the electrnoics to a single brushed motor and 6 cell stick packs, sub c cells. Also the battery must be mounted to the frame, not to the links or axles. Anyways, I felt that by limiting the trucks to a single brushed motor and only 6 cell stick packs (sub c's) was enough to keep the electronics on a more level playing field. I did think about the servos as well, but what is to keep someone from pulling stickers off a more expensive servo? On the no wheel weights idea... You will get people stuffing lead inside the wheels, under the foam. Going to make people remove all 4 tires, to tech for weight? Better idea would be a overall weight limit, but again this just adds to the tech in time. |
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08-21-2007, 12:56 PM
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08-21-2007, 12:58 PM
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Not to be a dick Matt...but come on man. Axial goes to all this work to build a rig to fit perfectly into the existing 2.2 class, and instead of welcoming it as a new addition to the crawler world, we're going to distance ourselves from it and put it in it's own class, which incidently is exactly the same as the other class we run (supers are dead, especially here in UT)...brilliant... |
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