Updated and revised SORRCA Rules and Specs

[EvilTwin v2]

Originally Posted by jeep94xj

•Truggy/back halved truck: metal -4, plastic -2
(Must replace the ladder frame from the rear of the skid Min. to the back of the vehicle.)

I'm still not getting this one. Most truggies I've seen (1:1) are usually cut off at the back of the cab. Not necessairly the back of the skid. I want to be sure on this before I get too much further on my build.

Here's the rule from the class requirements:

"• Truggies are allowed, but must have a rail chassis up too the rear of the skid minimum. The truggy structure must extend to the back of the rear axles pumpkin or beyond to be legal."

The description in the scale points may have been a typo. I'll check with the comittee to make sure.

[jeep94xj]

Originally Posted by EvilTwin v2

Here's the rule from the class requirements:

"• Truggies are allowed, but must have a rail chassis up too the rear of the skid minimum. The truggy structure must extend to the back of the rear axles pumpkin or beyond to be legal."

The description in the scale points may have been a typo. I'll check with the comittee to make sure.

What you posted I understand. What I posted makes it sound like the framerails can't be past the back of the skid.

Thanks. Oh, and I just forgot to delete the part about the points.

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by EvilTwin v2

That's a Tube bed.

Thanks. I was getting tube bed mixed up w/ 'truggy' but now I understand why it falls into class 2.

[Gimp]

Looks good guys. I only have one comment....

I think dig (no rear steer) should be allowed in Class 2. With the description of Class 2, that kind of 1:1 rig would more than likely have an Atlas II or similar transfer case and a Line Lock.... I just think it would be appropriate in Class 2 given the current description, even if you had to take penalty points to use it.

Thanks

[brazwewn]

Great job on the rules, never easy trying to please everyone. I think I will be a good fit in the class 2. My bet this is where most people in our club will fall.

Wes

[TURTLE]

Nice work guys, I'm happy to see bed bobbing is allowed in class 1.

[1BadJeepBruiser]

Originally Posted by TURTLE

Nice work guys, I'm happy to see bed bobbing is allowed in class 1.

x2 Rules are a lot better now

[PinchFlat]

Originally Posted by jeep94xj

What you posted I understand. What I posted makes it sound like the framerails can't be past the back of the skid.

Thanks. Oh, and I just forgot to delete the part about the points.

So I can have a truggy with full rails. Perfect.

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

So I can have a truggy with full rails. Perfect.

[BigSki]

I just noticed today that my 1.9 Flatirons are too big ( by .010) to be used in class 1, I wonder if anyone else has realized that Flatirons are a no-go for C1?

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by BigSki

I just noticed today that my 1.9 Flatirons are too big ( by .010) to be used in class 1, I wonder if anyone else has realized that Flatirons are a no-go for C1?

We did that on purpose. Class 1 isn't designed to be a drop in class, it's designed to be a builders class for all the scale trucks with short WB, smaller wheels and tires where they can compete without being scored with a heavily modified truck that is much more capable.

[rckjeep]

Great job guys, the rules are much easier to understand as well as explain to people.

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

So I can have a truggy with full rails. Perfect.

Gotta love that right Pinch.

There really isn't a benefit to a truggy but a truggy is a truggy not a full framed rig with tube welded to it. Come on now people.

[EvilTwin v2]

Originally Posted by rckjeep

Great job guys, the rules are much easier to understand as well as explain to people.



Gotta love that right Pinch.

There really isn't a benefit to a truggy but a truggy is a truggy not a full framed rig with tube welded to it. Come on now people.

Exactly. Full frame it's a tube bed.

You just can't win with some people. When you try to spell everything out, the rules are far too long and complicated. Then you simplify things, and the same people then try to poke holes in everything. It's no wonder so many people don't want to compete. Some people just have to take the fun out of it.

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by slobin3d

We did that on purpose. Class 1 isn't designed to be a drop in class, it's designed to be a builders class for all the scale trucks with short WB, smaller wheels and tires where they can compete without being scored with a heavily modified truck that is much more capable.

Oh, I realize that and I think it's a great idea! My 'Yoter can fit into C1 but I can also make it legal for C2 in case I have no other C1 rigs to run against.

[bart]

so no more then 1/2 in of tire can stick out past the body?

[Tommy R]

Originally Posted by bart

so no more then 1/2 in of tire can stick out past the body?

Only in Class 1.

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by bart

so no more then 1/2 in of tire can stick out past the body?

Its half of the tread width in class 1. Not 1/2"

"• The tread of the tires cannot extend outside of the wheel wells more then 1/2 of the tread width."

[Tommy R]

Oops, Sloppy is correct. I misread your question.

[squatch71]

Originally Posted by slobin3d

We did that on purpose. Class 1 isn't designed to be a drop in class, it's designed to be a builders class for all the scale trucks with short WB, smaller wheels and tires where they can compete without being scored with a heavily modified truck that is much more capable.

well, shoot.....got some flat irons for sale...any takers!!!

I was going to post this question as well, seen that then started searching....ohh well.

[dingo2010]

I have a few questions:

1. If a tire is not listed in the tire ban list, does that mean it is leagal i.e. proline hammers?

2. You allow for 2.2's in the trail 2 class, however there are very few 2.2 tire selections under 5" o.d.. Shouldn't tires and wheels should be chosen based on how they fit the vehicle rather than a blanket size? I know that the axial cars are supposed to be 1/10 scale, however, they are probably closer to 1/8 scale. If you do the math on the scaling of wheels and tires, they are pretty huge anyway (Also you are at the mercy of the tire manufacturers sizes).

4.75 tire 1/12 scale=57" 1.9 wheel 1/12 scale=22.8"
1/10 scale=47.5" 1/10 scale=19"
1/8 scale=38" 1/8 scale=15.2"

3. If your rig is going to be in class 3 based stricktly on tire size or wheels outside of the frame, but is not going to have dig or 4ws how do you intend them to be competitive in an ulimited class. It would be the same as running a shafty vs. an moa.

4. there are alot of crawlers (1:1) that are being made into scalers, the actual vehicles don't have wheel wells, covers on the motor or even the inside of the vehicle passenger compartment (expanded metal floors). Alot of 4x4s remove inner fenderwells for more tire clearance anyway.

these are just some concerns I have with the current rules and guidelines. I understand that it is practically impossible to make up rules to cover everyone's needs or concerns. But the way the rules read, they are designed more for guys that want to have a street class of vehicle more so than a purpose built vehicle. I think that the rules you have put in place are a great start, but will need a little tweeking to make them fit a wider variety of vehicles (At least in class 2 and 3).