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TURBOFEST · 09-29-2009, 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=binaryterror;2019157]Jason, just to let you know, The Eye's Super Bully's at the Worlds were 100% stock using all RC4WD gears. It wasn't a single gear failure, more than one was completely removed of all it's teeth. Nothing has been posted as a fix in RC4WD, nor even talked about.QUOTE]

In defense of the Bullies that The Eye was running...his rig was weighing in somewhere around 14lbs. (from what I remember him saying) during worlds...his wheel/tire combo had a ton of weight hanging off the ends of those axles. He was also driving that thing hard as hell. I don't think any of the options mentioned would have held up to that abuse. They are starting to show up on alot of peoples doorsteps now...lets see what the next few weeks tells us...I think it'll be good things

punkuup5150 · 09-29-2009, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by punkuup5150
ok so looking at the stock turning i think there is definenitly some improvements to be made but it looks like they could be easly done with a dremel. with my 2.2 bullys i can get far more steering out of it if i were to take a little bit of the roundness of the knuckle

I'd like to know if that is actually the case, if I can get around 45 degrees out of the bully I'd pull the trigger on a set of them.

send me a set jason ill let you know

jason · 09-29-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by binaryterror

Jason, just to let you know, The Eye's Super Bully's at the Worlds were 100% stock using all RC4WD gears. It wasn't a single gear failure, more than one was completely removed of all it's teeth. Nothing has been posted as a fix in RC4WD, nor even talked about.

That's crazy several of the gears were wiped clean.

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They are also not as heavy as Berg 2.2's since the set The Eye had, had the lighter CNC aluminum axle housings.

That is good to know.

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Originally Posted by binaryterror

My only question is why the need for 2 servos per axle? I know SuperDave had them, but Jake's rig did well with only 1 per axle.

Because with 2 servos per axle you can end up with almost 1000 ounces of torque on each end. If I am going to build the ultimate super, 1000 ounces sounds great.

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Originally Posted by Racer4Life

Just a note to this post. Not stealing your thread here Jason...I am very sorry.

No need to apologize, this is a discussion, I still don't know which direction I want to go on this project, I like the open discussion in here and everyone bouncing the ideas around.

When I started this thread I was 95% sure I was going to run berg axles, now people have opened my eyes to the bullys. I'd say I am 50-50 at this point.

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Originally Posted by punkuup5150

send me a set jason ill let you know

If i get a set I'll let you know how good I get them steering;)

Racer4Life · 09-29-2009, 04:55 PM

Thanks Jason.

I do have a few guys working, and myself to see if we can get some better steering angle. I really like the extra steering. We didn't need that much more for the 2.2 as we are in the links already, but I think this can be fixed pretty easy on the SB, but time will tell.

Thanks again.

ThinkTank · 09-29-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jason

If i get a set I'll let you know how good I get them steering;)

Am I the only one here that see's the potential beyond of anything or what?
Is it that big of a stretch to assume that aftermarket Bully Super CVDs can be made for those who want it? Somebody call RC Axle Master.

Biscuit · 09-29-2009, 05:23 PM

Hey Jason. Check out the PM I just sent you regarding Suoer Chassis when you get a second. Thanks

Grizzly4x4 · 09-29-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jason

Don't just roll your eyes flatbiller,

I just wanted to quote this.

This thread is interesting, I don't have anything good to add yet but you've got me thinking now Jason.

ROCKEDUP RICKY · 09-29-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by redbaron

I thought super class was dead?!?!?!

Only to the boys that can't handle a mans crawler.

DiEzel · 09-29-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

I just wanted to quote this.

lol.

Jason, sit tight for a few days. We're going to see what we can do for steering before the weekend hits..

jason · 09-29-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DiEzel

Jason, sit tight for a few days. We're going to see what we can do for steering before the weekend hits..

Awesome I cannot wait to see what you guys come up with.

Wrecker · 09-29-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DiEzel

lol.

Jason, sit tight for a few days. We're going to see what we can do for steering before the weekend hits..

Don't come back until you've got at least 45 degrees.

chevellian · 09-29-2009, 10:23 PM

Rc4wd doesn't list the weight for the super bullys, anyone know?

jason · 09-29-2009, 10:38 PM

It's already been posted in this thread.

phillyb · 09-30-2009, 08:15 AM

Newb question, but is there a post on building a super\MOA? Need to learnz and I can't seem to find much. Plenty of builds but no general info.

Been reading the large scaler stuff, interested in these super bullies. I think I have taken a shafty AX10 about as far as it can go.

SVEN · 09-30-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by phillyb

Newb question, but is there a post on building a super\MOA? Need to learnz and I can't seem to find much. Plenty of builds but no general info.

Been reading the large scaler stuff, interested in these super bullies. I think I have taken a shafty AX10 about as far as it can go.

Check out the Clod Buster section. There are some good stickies and builds in there to get you started.

joesbruiser · 09-30-2009, 09:38 AM

I am also considering building a new Super Jason.
I looked at the berg option and I know how hard I am on my super and I have broke gears with my 2.2 berg several times.Take that and combine it with the cost of the berg axles and shafts and it puts me to the point I have ruled out that option.
I have looked at the bully axles and I am leaning that way.Once work pics up I am going to be taking the clod apart and building something new mainly because with you starting this thread makes me feel better that Super is going to be here for the long haul.

70duncan · 09-30-2009, 10:45 AM

Wow, you have my interest in what way you go with your axles. I have thinking about changing from my clods, because it seems that good CVDs are next to impossable to get. I have one set thanks to Casey, but I need another for the rear. It would be nice if the super bullys work. I guess only time will tell.

jason · 09-30-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joesbruiser

because with you starting this thread makes me feel better that Super is going to be here for the long haul.

Supers aren't going anywhere Joe.

Szczerba · 09-30-2009, 12:30 PM

I am watching this thread too because of a potential super rebuild. Nothing wrong with mine, just want another one with more up to date axles, as you stated.
I have my clodbuster based rig down to 7.5lbs and really like it at that weight. But the SuperBully's dont seem too much heaiver, either.

DeaDShorT · 09-30-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jason

Supers aren't going anywhere Joe.

Glad to hear that

Watching this thread for updates on the berg vs bully super debate. Lots of good info here already.

09-29-2009, 09:09 AM	#41
TURBOFEST I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: JERSEY BOONDOCKS Posts: 3,360	[QUOTE=binaryterror;2019157]Jason, just to let you know, The Eye's Super Bully's at the Worlds were 100% stock using all RC4WD gears. It wasn't a single gear failure, more than one was completely removed of all it's teeth. Nothing has been posted as a fix in RC4WD, nor even talked about.QUOTE] In defense of the Bullies that The Eye was running...his rig was weighing in somewhere around 14lbs. (from what I remember him saying) during worlds...his wheel/tire combo had a ton of weight hanging off the ends of those axles. He was also driving that thing hard as hell. I don't think any of the options mentioned would have held up to that abuse. They are starting to show up on alot of peoples doorsteps now...lets see what the next few weeks tells us...I think it'll be good things

09-29-2009, 11:47 AM	#42
punkuup5150 Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: lodi Posts: 952	Originally Posted by punkuup5150 ok so looking at the stock turning i think there is definenitly some improvements to be made but it looks like they could be easly done with a dremel. with my 2.2 bullys i can get far more steering out of it if i were to take a little bit of the roundness of the knuckle I'd like to know if that is actually the case, if I can get around 45 degrees out of the bully I'd pull the trigger on a set of them. send me a set jason ill let you know

09-29-2009, 04:55 PM	#44
Racer4Life I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In Cali. Posts: 4,109	Thanks Jason. I do have a few guys working, and myself to see if we can get some better steering angle. I really like the extra steering. We didn't need that much more for the 2.2 as we are in the links already, but I think this can be fixed pretty easy on the SB, but time will tell. Thanks again.

09-29-2009, 05:23 PM	#46
Biscuit Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Anniston, Alabama Posts: 799	Hey Jason. Check out the PM I just sent you regarding Suoer Chassis when you get a second. Thanks

09-29-2009, 10:23 PM	#52
chevellian Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lititz Posts: 787	Rc4wd doesn't list the weight for the super bullys, anyone know?

09-29-2009, 10:38 PM	#53
jason R.I.P. Chip Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Crawler State Posts: 13,938	It's already been posted in this thread.

09-30-2009, 08:15 AM	#54
phillyb Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: roanoke Posts: 550	Newb question, but is there a post on building a super\MOA? Need to learnz and I can't seem to find much. Plenty of builds but no general info. Been reading the large scaler stuff, interested in these super bullies. I think I have taken a shafty AX10 about as far as it can go.

09-30-2009, 09:38 AM	#56
joesbruiser I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: spring hill TN Posts: 2,959	I am also considering building a new Super Jason. I looked at the berg option and I know how hard I am on my super and I have broke gears with my 2.2 berg several times.Take that and combine it with the cost of the berg axles and shafts and it puts me to the point I have ruled out that option. I have looked at the bully axles and I am leaning that way.Once work pics up I am going to be taking the clod apart and building something new mainly because with you starting this thread makes me feel better that Super is going to be here for the long haul.

09-30-2009, 10:45 AM	#57
70duncan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stuck on a Rig in the middle of nowhere Utah. Posts: 2,024	Wow, you have my interest in what way you go with your axles. I have thinking about changing from my clods, because it seems that good CVDs are next to impossable to get. I have one set thanks to Casey, but I need another for the rear. It would be nice if the super bullys work. I guess only time will tell.

09-30-2009, 12:30 PM	#59
Szczerba I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Castle Rock, WA Posts: 8,785	I am watching this thread too because of a potential super rebuild. Nothing wrong with mine, just want another one with more up to date axles, as you stated. I have my clodbuster based rig down to 7.5lbs and really like it at that weight. But the SuperBully's dont seem too much heaiver, either.

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