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BigB_117 · 10-01-2009, 07:49 PM

With a stick radio do most of you guys drive your super like it's 2 trucks with one axles throttle and steering on each stick? Or do you do some kind of mixing setup?

joesbruiser · 10-01-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigB_117

With a stick radio do most of you guys drive your super like it's 2 trucks with one axles throttle and steering on each stick? Or do you do some kind of mixing setup?

The only mix I have on my truck is so I can drive from one spot to the next with one hand while smoking a cigarette.

It takes more time and thought to sit and flip switches than to just drive the truck with the front on one stick and the rear on the other stick IMHO.

BigB_117 · 10-01-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joesbruiser

The only mix I have on my truck is so I can drive from one spot to the next with one hand while smoking a cigarette.

It takes more time and thought to sit and flip switches than to just drive the truck with the front on one stick and the rear on the other stick IMHO.

Makes sense. Seems like it would be challenging to drive but I can't think of a simpler way to do it.

For dig I guess you're just using the drag brake to hold an axle in place?

TURBOFEST · 10-01-2009, 10:31 PM

I'm at home and my connection sucks, so no pictures yet. But i got my axles and i measured the stock steering anlges...

out of the package:
-the steering locks out at 32* due to the fact that the knuckle hits the axle tube and the cvd hits the inside of the C.

I grabbed the dremel and went to TOWN on the knuckles and the C sections of the Super Bullies. I found that after some minor dremeling the knuckle totally frees up and can turn more than would ever be needed. I took the CVD out to see what it was capable of and it locks out at about 39-40 degrees...so that what i shot for. I hogged out the inside of the axle C because the cvd was hitting the inside of the C causing it to stop at about 34-35 degrees. It took some work, but I did get it to turn to the full potential of the cvd...39-40 degrees. The cvd could be modified to gain even more...but i don't think it's really necessary. 39-40 is waaaay more than i was ever getting with my clod and I seem to do OK with that.

I'll add pics to this thread tomorrow...

atekt · 10-02-2009, 01:21 AM

These supers look pretty fun to drive. I love how much control the driver has over the rig. Very cool stuff..

Spiftacu1ar · 10-02-2009, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jason

bergs, 4 wide sides, 2 sets of super 300's, and 4 servos it adds up quick.

Why do you need 4 servo's?

joesbruiser · 10-02-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiftacu1ar

Why do you need 4 servo's?

Its all about power

microgoat · 10-02-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by joesbruiser

I am after something different in the tire department.
I would say 6.5 would be great but I want a way shorter sidewall.Thats the reason I am going to try the meatgrinders. I just do not see the reason to have that much sidewall if I can keep from it.
It just going to be finding the wheel that makes the tire the right height.

How about a 4.5 inch wheel?

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/3255/

Other styles available, but you know how I am about white wagon wheels.

Racer4Life · 10-02-2009, 07:27 AM

Great Jim. Sounds like I need to get my dremel out.

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Originally Posted by TURBOFEST

I'm at home and my connection sucks, so no pictures yet. But i got my axles and i measured the stock steering anlges...

out of the package:
-the steering locks out at 32* due to the fact that the knuckle hits the axle tube and the cvd hits the inside of the C.

I grabbed the dremel and went to TOWN on the knuckles and the C sections of the Super Bullies. I found that after some minor dremeling the knuckle totally frees up and can turn more than would ever be needed. I took the CVD out to see what it was capable of and it locks out at about 39-40 degrees...so that what i shot for. I hogged out the inside of the axle C because the cvd was hitting the inside of the C causing it to stop at about 34-35 degrees. It took some work, but I did get it to turn to the full potential of the cvd...39-40 degrees. The cvd could be modified to gain even more...but i don't think it's really necessary. 39-40 is waaaay more than i was ever getting with my clod and I seem to do OK with that.

I'll add pics to this thread tomorrow...

joesbruiser · 10-02-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by microgoat

How about a 4.5 inch wheel?

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/3255/

Other styles available, but you know how I am about white wagon wheels.

I run a 4.5 wheel now but want a shorter overall tire diameter but with the same sidewall heights that the Panther gives when used with the 4.5 so I will just have to start playing with wheel diameter to see what all heights are obtainable.

TURBOFEST · 10-02-2009, 09:02 AM

pictures as promised:

First off...these things are PUUUURTY!

Here's some surgery pics ;)

stock:

modded:

modded steering is on the left...stock on the right...hard to see, but its better:

phillyb · 10-02-2009, 09:04 AM

Nice!

jmz6 · 10-02-2009, 09:07 AM

Nice, looks sweet... I will be looking forward to seeing this on the rocks

krawlfreak · 10-02-2009, 09:39 AM

very nice work clearencing those axles, what do you think you got them to 40-45 degrees? is that the max the cvd's can handle or can you push it more?

TURBOFEST · 10-02-2009, 09:54 AM

I maxed out the cvd's @ a tick under 40 degrees.

The cvd's could be modified to get ALOT more steering, but I'm not gonna get into that as I don't think the width of the axles and the link position will allow much more than 40 degrees.

You could recess the inner axle shaft just before the joint and gain alot more, however, then you going to start taking away from the strength of the shaft.

70duncan · 10-02-2009, 09:57 AM

Nice work with the Dremil. I would have a hard time cutting up some new shinny parts

. It looks like there is still plenty of material there to keep up the druability.

krawlfreak · 10-02-2009, 10:00 AM

nice!!

i agree recessing the axle shaft would definately weeken it.
thanks for the info.

kasper · 10-02-2009, 10:16 AM

Hey jason your super would be a great build for rcctv

Wrecker · 10-02-2009, 11:59 AM

Thanks for the detailed pics and info TURBOFEST.

I think after seeing how much the Bully's can be improved, even though it's not quite up to berg steering, they are definitely the best all around package. I think 40 degrees of steering is about the minimum I would be looking for in an axle, anything more than that would be a nice bonus, but honestly most 4 linked setups wouldn't be able to take advantage of any more steering anyways without everything getting in the way.

TURBOFEST · 10-02-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrecker

Thanks for the detailed pics and info TURBOFEST.

I think after seeing how much the Bully's can be improved, even though it's not quite up to berg steering, they are definitely the best all around package. I think 40 degrees of steering is about the minimum I would be looking for in an axle, anything more than that would be a nice bonus, but honestly most 4 linked setups wouldn't be able to take advantage of any more steering anyways without everything getting in the way.

No Prob...and thats exactly what i was thinking. Even with the link mounts on the inner slot the tires are still going to contact the links. Unless you run a pimp came, stick or other type of torsion rig or if you run a way wide shallow offset rim/tire, your not going to be able to use more than 40 degrees practically.

10-01-2009, 07:49 PM	#101
BigB_117 RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 1,525	With a stick radio do most of you guys drive your super like it's 2 trucks with one axles throttle and steering on each stick? Or do you do some kind of mixing setup?

10-01-2009, 10:31 PM	#104
TURBOFEST I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: JERSEY BOONDOCKS Posts: 3,360	I'm at home and my connection sucks, so no pictures yet. But i got my axles and i measured the stock steering anlges... out of the package: -the steering locks out at 32* due to the fact that the knuckle hits the axle tube and the cvd hits the inside of the C. I grabbed the dremel and went to TOWN on the knuckles and the C sections of the Super Bullies. I found that after some minor dremeling the knuckle totally frees up and can turn more than would ever be needed. I took the CVD out to see what it was capable of and it locks out at about 39-40 degrees...so that what i shot for. I hogged out the inside of the axle C because the cvd was hitting the inside of the C causing it to stop at about 34-35 degrees. It took some work, but I did get it to turn to the full potential of the cvd...39-40 degrees. The cvd could be modified to gain even more...but i don't think it's really necessary. 39-40 is waaaay more than i was ever getting with my clod and I seem to do OK with that. I'll add pics to this thread tomorrow...

10-02-2009, 01:21 AM	#105
atekt Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 691	These supers look pretty fun to drive. I love how much control the driver has over the rig. Very cool stuff..

10-02-2009, 09:02 AM	#111
TURBOFEST I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: JERSEY BOONDOCKS Posts: 3,360	pictures as promised: First off...these things are PUUUURTY! Here's some surgery pics ;) stock: modded: modded steering is on the left...stock on the right...hard to see, but its better:

10-02-2009, 09:04 AM	#112
phillyb Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: roanoke Posts: 550	Nice!

10-02-2009, 09:07 AM	#113
jmz6 Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lehigh Valley Posts: 956	Nice, looks sweet... I will be looking forward to seeing this on the rocks

10-02-2009, 09:39 AM	#114
krawlfreak I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Having fun again... Posts: 2,641	very nice work clearencing those axles, what do you think you got them to 40-45 degrees? is that the max the cvd's can handle or can you push it more?

10-02-2009, 09:54 AM	#115
TURBOFEST I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: JERSEY BOONDOCKS Posts: 3,360	I maxed out the cvd's @ a tick under 40 degrees. The cvd's could be modified to get ALOT more steering, but I'm not gonna get into that as I don't think the width of the axles and the link position will allow much more than 40 degrees. You could recess the inner axle shaft just before the joint and gain alot more, however, then you going to start taking away from the strength of the shaft.

10-02-2009, 09:57 AM	#116
70duncan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stuck on a Rig in the middle of nowhere Utah. Posts: 2,024	Nice work with the Dremil. I would have a hard time cutting up some new shinny parts . It looks like there is still plenty of material there to keep up the druability.

10-02-2009, 10:00 AM	#117
krawlfreak I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Having fun again... Posts: 2,641	nice!! i agree recessing the axle shaft would definately weeken it. thanks for the info.

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10-02-2009, 10:16 AM	#118
kasper I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: appleton Posts: 2,067	Hey jason your super would be a great build for rcctv

10-02-2009, 11:59 AM	#119
Wrecker [HOONIGAN] Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grand Junction Posts: 4,269	Thanks for the detailed pics and info TURBOFEST. I think after seeing how much the Bully's can be improved, even though it's not quite up to berg steering, they are definitely the best all around package. I think 40 degrees of steering is about the minimum I would be looking for in an axle, anything more than that would be a nice bonus, but honestly most 4 linked setups wouldn't be able to take advantage of any more steering anyways without everything getting in the way.

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