bilinvic's RR10 Bomber Build

[bilinvic]

Yes, with the SSD wheels.

[bilinvic]

It's a wet day up here on Vancouver Island...but today is the day my Bomber get's it's cherry popped! I hope it goes well!

[dbw]

Looking forward to your report!

[Biomedchad]

Bilinvic. Since you are using the trail masters and vp products your setup is close to mine less the rc bros weights. I picked up some 750slw hubs but they seem to stick out a little too much from the car. If you didn't have the weights what length could you use to bring the wheels back toward the car more? Thanks for all the help again.


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[cmbscx10]

Originally Posted by Ca. Off Roader

Awesome build. Hope your maiden run went well. Looking forward to hearing how it all went.

X2

The Maiden pics looked good.

[bilinvic]

Originally Posted by Biomedchad

Bilinvic. Since you are using the trail masters and vp products your setup is close to mine less the rc bros weights. I picked up some 750slw hubs but they seem to stick out a little too much from the car. If you didn't have the weights what length could you use to bring the wheels back toward the car more? Thanks for all the help again.

I'm actually running the SSD Assassin 2.2 wheels now, but with the TrailMaster wheels, you could likely use .475 hubs or the .600 hubs. Obviously the wider track width will add stability to your rig.

[bilinvic]

The maiden voyage went amazingly well. I was pretty confident it would because of the extensive bench testing and tuning I performed prior to hitting the rocks.

My intention for the Bomber is to build an extremely capable crawler with the attributes of being a rock bouncer....and it does this really well.

The longer wheelbase helps with reaching ledges to pull itself up the rocks, but at the same time is a disadvantage for break overs....which is fine, because that's when the rock bouncing capabilities come in, especially with sensored brushless power.

The front / rear weight bias is perfect and no further tuning is required. The CoG and lateral stability is also perfect, cross hill crawling was incredible and the Bomber rarely flipped in some extreme situations; it completely blew my mind how good it performed.

The spare tire didn't hang up at all, which was an initial concern for me.

Dual shocks on all four corners worked excellent, the perfect amount of articulation was dialed in. I will keep the spring rates and shock fluid viscosity the same. I experienced very minor torque twist on some extreme climbs (the front passenger side wheel would lift). It's not enough to worry about, but I'm a little OCD () so I will wait patiently for Vanquish to replenish their stock of rear sway bars. I may also add a stiffer spring rate to the driver's side front shock to help alleviate the twist too.

The SSD CNC machined black acetol skids for the diamond axles are definitely worth it, no pumpkin hang-ups; the scratches and gouges are proof of that. Vanquish F9 axles will never see my rigs unless they come out with a similar style skid. Way to go SSD!

I have said it before and I will say it again, the Proline 2.2 Flat Iron XL tires are spectacular (stuffed with CI 2-stage foams). Today's crawl was all wet rocks and these tires gripped like crazy. The only other tire I will consider for the Bomber is the 2.2 KLR when it comes out.

I did experience some sputtering with the Holmes Hobbies Trail Master BL540 motor (3100 kV) on the very low end, so this motor is coming out and will be replaced with a Tekin ROC412 3100kV motor.

Overall, I am overwhelmed with how great this Bomber has turned out and it will only get better! The crawls, climbs and bouncing that it did today was wicked, and the RC'ers that I was with were also very fascinated with it's performance and capabilities...not to mention it's beauty!!!

Way to go Axial....you hit a grand slam home run with this rig.

[bilinvic]

Proof that it's no longer a shelf queen...

[bilinvic]

I dissembled the Bomber to replace the motor and to clean and look for any issues, such as clearance issues and loose screws.

Tekin ROC412 motor is in; 32p 10T pinion.

As you can see from the second photo, after three hours of extreme rock crawling, there is no clearance issues with the Yeti MIP driveshaft on the spur cover with a centered rear diff.

[bilinvic]

Up-to-date specs:


Vehicle Build Specs: RR10 Bomber
Base Vehicle: Axial RR10 Bomber RTR

Front Axle:
Housing - SSD Diamond Axle; Black
Link Mount / Truss - SSD Diamond Front Axle Upper Link Mount; Grey
Servo Mount - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber; Reversed
Diff Cover - SSD Diamond Axle; Black
Bearing Caps - n/a (3rd Member)
C-Hubs - Vanquish; Anodized Orange
Knuckles - Vanquish: Anodized Orange
Knuckle Bushings - Vanquish
Gears - Axial HD Bevel 38T/13T
Axle Shafts - VP VVD V1-HD 4mm Stubs
Locker - Grip Fab SS
Steering Links - SSD Titanium Steering Links for AR60 Axle

Rear Axle:
Housing - SSD Diamond Axle; Black
Link Mount / Truss - n/a
Diff Cover - SSD Diamond Axle; Black
Bearing Caps - n/a (3rd Member)
Lockouts - SSD; Black
Gears - Axial HD Bevel 43T/13T
Axle Shafts - SSD
Locker - Grib Fab SS
Misc. - SSD Diamond Axle Skids; Front & Rear

Transmission:
Case - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Motor Plate - STRC CNC Machined Aluminum; Gunmetal
Internal Gears - Axial; Stock
Pinion Gear - Robinson Racing 12T 32P
Spur Gear - Axial 64T 32P
Top Shaft - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Intermediate Shaft(s) - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Outputs - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Transfer Case - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Drive Shafts - MIP Yeti Rear; Junfac Universal; 120-155mm
Slipper - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber

Chassis / Suspension:
Frame - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Skid Plate - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Front Bumper - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Servo Mount - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber; Reversed
Shock Mounts - Vanquish; Grey (Axle Mounted)
Body Mounts - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Shocks – Proline Pro-Spec Short Course; Slash Rear (100mm)
Shock Fluid - Factory Team; 40w Front/Rear; 55w Quad Rear
Upper Front Links - Vanquish Titanium; Wraith
Lower Front Links - Vanquish Titanium; Wraith
Upper Rear Links - Vanquish Titanium Straight Links; Revo & Jato Link Ends
Lower Rear Links - Blue Monkey RC; Yeti Trailing Arms; Revo Link Ends (lower mount position)
Link Ends - Traxxas Revo & Jato
Battery Mount - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
1. Misc. - RC4WD King Shocks; Modified (100mm) Front Dual Springless Shocks
2. Misc. – RC4WD King Shocks (120mm) Rear Dual Springless Shocks
3. Misc. - RC Bros Knuckle Weight Kit
4. Misc. - KBess Mfg 4 inch Orange Limiting Straps

Electronics:
Motor – Tekin ROC412 3100kv WP
ESC - Castle Creations; Mamba Max Pro WP
Sensor Cable - Novak
Servo - Holmes Hobbies BLS HV400
Lighting - RC4WD Baja Designs Squadron Set
Lighting - Gear Head RC 1/10 Scale KOH Rear Lights; 4 inch
Lighting – Axial Simple LED Drivers
BEC - Castle Creations; 10-Amp
Receiver - Spektrum
Radio - Spektrum DX4S
Battery - Various 3S
Wiring Connectors - Traxxas
Misc. - Racer's Edge Aluminum Pro Servo Horn; 25T

Rolling Stock:
Wheels – SSD 2.2 Assassin Beadlock Wheels
Beadlock Rings - SSD
Hubs / Offset - Vanquish; .850
Hex - Axial 12mm Aluminum
Hex Pins - Axial
Wheel Nuts - Locked Up RC 4-40 Acorn Nut Wheel Studs
Tires - Proline Flat Iron 2.2" XL G8 Rock Terrain Truck Tires
Tire Foams - Crawler Innovations Double Deuce

Body / Interior:
Body - Axial; Stock Bomber Fabrications
Paint / Graphics - Axial; Stock Bomber Fabrications
Interior Base - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Figure(s) - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Seat(s) - Axial; Stock RR10 Bomber
Interior Details - “Lego” Driver’s Window Net
1. Exterior Details - Hobby Gear 1/10 Extinguisher / Jack; RC4WD Fuel Cell
2. Exterior Details - Custom Fuel Filler, Custom Shock Reservoirs

General:
Bearings - Axial; Fast Eddy
Hardware - Stainless Steel
Grease - Castrol Pyroplex Blue
Waterproofing - MG Chemicals Urethane Conformal Coating
Misc. - Yeah Racing Extinguisher Mount

[jwall046]

Wow!
I don't have close to the crawling/Rc knowledge as a lot on RCC. But threads like this sure are informative.
Thank you!

J.A.W - just another wraith

[Ca. Off Roader]

Originally Posted by bilinvic

Up-to-date specs:


Vehicle Build Specs: RR10 Bomber
Base Vehicle: Axial RR10 Bomber RTR
...

Rear Axle:
Housing - SSD Diamond Axle; Black
Link Mount / Truss - n/a
Diff Cover - SSD Diamond Axle; Black
Bearing Caps - n/a (3rd Member)
Lockouts - SSD; Black

Quick question... are the lockouts something that SSD no longer sell? I checked for the Wraith and it's not listed on their website at this point. TIA!

[84yoda]

Originally Posted by Ca. Off Roader

Quick question... are the lockouts something that SSD no longer sell? I checked for the Wraith and it's not listed on their website at this point. TIA!

It comes with the SSD housing, if you look up the axle and see the tiny end caps, thats it.

[Ca. Off Roader]

Originally Posted by 84yoda

It comes with the SSD housing, if you look up the axle and see the tiny end caps, thats it.

Ahh, OK. Thanks for that clarification.

One other question...

Originally Posted by bilinvic

Front Axle:
Gears - Axial HD Bevel 38T/13T

Rear Axle:
Gears - Axial HD Bevel 43T/13T

The front and rear diff's have different number of gear teeth between the r&p gears? Am I correct to assume that this because the ring gear is bigger in the rear diff?

[84yoda]

Originally Posted by Ca. Off Roader

Ahh, OK. Thanks for that clarification.

One other question...


The front and rear diff's have different number of gear teeth between the r&p gears? Am I correct to assume that this because the ring gear is bigger in the rear diff?

Not bigger, same size. Reason for that is the front will spin faster now so it helps pull it up climbs and also makes the steering feel like it turns better. Doing that is personal preference, most done to crawlers.

[sic1to]

Originally Posted by Ca. Off Roader

Ahh, OK. Thanks for that clarification.

One other question...


The front and rear diff's have different number of gear teeth between the r&p gears? Am I correct to assume that this because the ring gear is bigger in the rear diff?

No same size just use diff gear ratio to slow rear while front rotates fastes for better climbing!

Nice rig man! Im glad testin went good after the wait

[raiders32]

Awesome build man! I was wondering if you could post a running video.

[Biomedchad]

And the extra king shocks are just the Kings without springs and not the scale shocks right ? What springs are on the others?

[cmbscx10]

Originally Posted by Biomedchad

And the extra king shocks are just the Kings without springs and not the scale shocks right ? What springs are on the others?

Post # 79 is the last list i saw.
bilinvic's RR10 Bomber Build

[cmbscx10]

Originally Posted by bilinvic

Overall, I am overwhelmed with how great this Bomber has turned out and it will only get better! The crawls, climbs and bouncing that it did today was wicked, and the RC'ers that I was with were also very fascinated with it's performance and capabilities...not to mention it's beauty!!!

Awesome right up and even better that she is not a shelf queen. Very happy for you that all your work and upgrades were what you expected and then some. Awesome rig you have there and looking forward to some video's.

Originally Posted by bilinvic

Way to go Axial....you hit a grand slam home run with this rig.

If i can step out on a limb without offense and say this statement is incorrect. YOU took a great looking platform that was offered to us and put the best of the best parts on and tuned it to perform as you stated. So, Axial may have hit a Grand Slam with the presentation of the RR10 but now that it 10% Axial and 90% bilinvic, you pitched a no hitter in the World Series Game 3. Hope that makes sense.