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Duuuuuuuude · 11-08-2009, 10:28 PM

What if you have a MOA that has a driveshaft that goes to a centrally mounted transmission that powers the axles?

Tanis · 11-08-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

What if you have a MOA that has a driveshaft that goes to a centrally mounted transmission that powers the axles?

That's gonna be straight up outlawed I believe

rmdesignworks · 11-08-2009, 10:44 PM

im an moa guy and i dont want seperate classes,,,,whiners,weenies and wanna-be's..im runnin an experimental chassis and it seems like every comp i have a different setup trying to find THE set up that works i think im pretty close but i pretty much get my a$$ handed to me every comp,,byy shafties and other moa's,,,just show up,power up and compete,,whatever happened to "run whatcha brung"?

BJoe · 11-08-2009, 11:03 PM

I'd prefer Run Whatcha Brung myself

scuzzy51 · 11-08-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Zach

Shafts are for scalers.

i remember you getting shafted a time or two...

rmdesignworks · 11-08-2009, 11:07 PM

im just trying to understand this IROC thought process on everything these days,,nobody wants to risk thier skill being looked at,,,why compete then

Reflection · 11-08-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rmdesignworks

im just trying to understand this IROC thought process on everything these days,,nobody wants to risk thier skill being looked at,,,why compete then

It's hard to believe ain't it......

SDS Customz · 11-08-2009, 11:13 PM

pretty soon well have so many classes u wont even be able to have a comp on a day. U will have to check the club schedule to see if u run on sat or on sun!

shadowrejects · 11-08-2009, 11:21 PM

wow thats G@Y

CHRIZAD · 11-09-2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Zach

Shafts are for scalers.

You make the rules?

Red Rockcrawler · 11-09-2009, 12:28 AM

I can't belive this even being looked at. We had 3 bergs and 3 axial rigs in our top 6 going in to our finale finshed berg, ax-10,berg, ax-10, berg, ax-10 so why for a new class

BJoe · 11-09-2009, 12:31 AM

X2 mucigrud!

tom@vp · 11-09-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TEDROCKZ

Unless...........

Wink

ManiacMagoo · 11-09-2009, 01:15 AM

This is about the stupidest thing that could happen to this sport. Never got looked at before and people had access to clod axles and the know how to make them 2.2's. The top drivers could driver any truck to the winners circle. I for one will never drive an MOA but after dumping what I did into my LCC and if this went through I would walk away and not blink once. ow can you have a world champion 2.2 if you split the class? I would like to see what Losi or Axial would have to say with this thought after they dumped all their money into marketing their products?

Culetto · 11-09-2009, 01:21 AM

The new moa-only class also gets 4ws

I dont see this happening anyway, since the losi is a shafty and also a top finisher at national level events. You really thinking of taking Losi out of the game? doubt it.

EGRESSor · 11-09-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EeePee

I just got wind that the rules committee have proposed a no shafty class!!!!

sounds like a girl class

EvilTwin v2 · 11-09-2009, 05:22 AM

This is possibly one of the dumber ideas I've heard yet.

This year, we ran a "Amatuer" and "Pro" class. We ran the same courses, but with a few alternate lines (hard line for "Pros" & easier line for the "Ams"). The classes were split based on ability/comfort level, but no different. The person was able to choose which class (but had to stay in that class for the season). The only extra work involved was that the course designers had to plan the alternate lines. However, it ended up saving time in the long run, as they didn't have to lay out seperate courses. After going to this, all of the complaints ended from the less experienced / less serious competitors.

Now, as for shafties vs MOA's, there didn't appear to be a definate advantage. Here's the breakdown of the results of our last comp:

Top 5 in Am was:
1st MOA (Bully)
2nd shafty (Losi)
3rd shafty (Axial)
4th shafty (Axial)
5th shafty (Axial)

(there were at least 3 other MOA's in the class)

Top 5 in Pro:
1st MOA (Losi MOA)
2nd shafty (Losi)
3rd shafty (Axial)
4th MOA (Berg)
5th MOA (Berg)

Our season results were also a similiar mix:

Am:
1st MOA (Bully)
2nd MOA (Berg)
3rd shafty (Axial)
4th shafty (Axial)
5th shafty (Axial)

(and the biggest reason that 1st & 2nd were MOA is that they probably put in double the practice time of most others in the class. It wasn't so much the vehicle as it was stick/wheel time.)

Pro:
1st MOA (Berg)
2nd MOA (started Bully, finished MOA Losi)
3rd started MOA (Bully), but finished w/ a Losi shafty
4th MOA (Bully)
5th shafty (Axial)

What's next, are we going to seperate bodied rigs & bodiless? Then we might as well have a class for home built tubers and a seperate for T1e & Beetlejuice style rigs.

If this is truly being considered, I hope the people in charge come to their senses quickly!

JUSTGOINGSLOW · 11-09-2009, 05:29 AM

It's like any competitive hobby, starts out awesome and gets all screwed up with rules in the end.

666 · 11-09-2009, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JUSTGOINGSLOW

It's like any competitive hobby, starts out awesome and gets all screwed up with rules in the end.

Man ain't that the truth. According to the ones who set the rules it is for the best interest of the sport....

Tydl · 11-09-2009, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EGRESSor

sounds like a girl class

x2

This is a lame suggestion, and I hope its only a suggestion. Any and all winers need to buck up or give up. What are we going to have a 2.2 moa champ and a 2.2 shafty champ. Stupid. If we need improvements to the rules or something, fix it. Don't throw the whole thing out to start over. Now where does that sound familiar....

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11-08-2009, 10:28 PM	#41
Duuuuuuuude Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 11,652	What if you have a MOA that has a driveshaft that goes to a centrally mounted transmission that powers the axles?

11-08-2009, 10:44 PM	#43
rmdesignworks I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope. Posts: 5,013	im an moa guy and i dont want seperate classes,,,,whiners,weenies and wanna-be's..im runnin an experimental chassis and it seems like every comp i have a different setup trying to find THE set up that works i think im pretty close but i pretty much get my a$$ handed to me every comp,,byy shafties and other moa's,,,just show up,power up and compete,,whatever happened to "run whatcha brung"?

11-08-2009, 11:03 PM	#44
BJoe I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: We-Go, Chi-Town, Ill Posts: 2,551	I'd prefer Run Whatcha Brung myself

11-08-2009, 11:07 PM	#46
rmdesignworks I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope. Posts: 5,013	im just trying to understand this IROC thought process on everything these days,,nobody wants to risk thier skill being looked at,,,why compete then

11-08-2009, 11:13 PM	#48
SDS Customz Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: dallas Posts: 968	pretty soon well have so many classes u wont even be able to have a comp on a day. U will have to check the club schedule to see if u run on sat or on sun!

11-08-2009, 11:21 PM	#49
shadowrejects Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Frisco, Texas Posts: 721	wow thats G@Y

11-09-2009, 12:28 AM	#51
Red Rockcrawler Trying to have Fun Again Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In your fridge stealing a beer Posts: 2,923	I can't belive this even being looked at. We had 3 bergs and 3 axial rigs in our top 6 going in to our finale finshed berg, ax-10,berg, ax-10, berg, ax-10 so why for a new class

11-09-2009, 12:31 AM	#52
BJoe I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: We-Go, Chi-Town, Ill Posts: 2,551	X2 mucigrud!

11-09-2009, 01:15 AM	#54
ManiacMagoo Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Albany Posts: 663	This is about the stupidest thing that could happen to this sport. Never got looked at before and people had access to clod axles and the know how to make them 2.2's. The top drivers could driver any truck to the winners circle. I for one will never drive an MOA but after dumping what I did into my LCC and if this went through I would walk away and not blink once. ow can you have a world champion 2.2 if you split the class? I would like to see what Losi or Axial would have to say with this thought after they dumped all their money into marketing their products?

11-09-2009, 01:21 AM	#55
Culetto RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,332	The new moa-only class also gets 4ws I dont see this happening anyway, since the losi is a shafty and also a top finisher at national level events. You really thinking of taking Losi out of the game? doubt it.

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11-09-2009, 05:22 AM	#57
EvilTwin v2 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net Posts: 3,510	This is possibly one of the dumber ideas I've heard yet. This year, we ran a "Amatuer" and "Pro" class. We ran the same courses, but with a few alternate lines (hard line for "Pros" & easier line for the "Ams"). The classes were split based on ability/comfort level, but no different. The person was able to choose which class (but had to stay in that class for the season). The only extra work involved was that the course designers had to plan the alternate lines. However, it ended up saving time in the long run, as they didn't have to lay out seperate courses. After going to this, all of the complaints ended from the less experienced / less serious competitors. Now, as for shafties vs MOA's, there didn't appear to be a definate advantage. Here's the breakdown of the results of our last comp: Top 5 in Am was: 1st MOA (Bully) 2nd shafty (Losi) 3rd shafty (Axial) 4th shafty (Axial) 5th shafty (Axial) (there were at least 3 other MOA's in the class) Top 5 in Pro: 1st MOA (Losi MOA) 2nd shafty (Losi) 3rd shafty (Axial) 4th MOA (Berg) 5th MOA (Berg) Our season results were also a similiar mix: Am: 1st MOA (Bully) 2nd MOA (Berg) 3rd shafty (Axial) 4th shafty (Axial) 5th shafty (Axial) (and the biggest reason that 1st & 2nd were MOA is that they probably put in double the practice time of most others in the class. It wasn't so much the vehicle as it was stick/wheel time.) Pro: 1st MOA (Berg) 2nd MOA (started Bully, finished MOA Losi) 3rd started MOA (Bully), but finished w/ a Losi shafty 4th MOA (Bully) 5th shafty (Axial) What's next, are we going to seperate bodied rigs & bodiless? Then we might as well have a class for home built tubers and a seperate for T1e & Beetlejuice style rigs. If this is truly being considered, I hope the people in charge come to their senses quickly!

11-09-2009, 05:29 AM	#58
JUSTGOINGSLOW RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Commerce Twp. Posts: 1,773	It's like any competitive hobby, starts out awesome and gets all screwed up with rules in the end.

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