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dezfan · 11-09-2009, 11:18 AM

We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

WheelinKing · 11-09-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

Its clear from this thread that 50% of the people....

A) Lack reading comprehension skills

B) Don't read past the 1st post

C) Are looking for an excuse to bitch or whine

D) Will believe anything someone posts

E) All of the Above

Hey Fish can i pick F) This whole thread is f-ing retarded. . .

Failedabortion · 11-09-2009, 11:25 AM

Maybe to drive up sales...

dpdsurf · 11-09-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezfan

We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

We're responsible for misinformed people creating inaccurate threads? Man you have tuff standards.

dhyde79 · 11-09-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

Its clear from this thread that 50% of the people....

A) Lack reading comprehension skills

B) Don't read past the 1st post

C) Are looking for an excuse to bitch or whine

D) Will believe anything someone posts

E) All of the Above

I choose F) are discussing the topic in the off chance it is seriously being considered.

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Originally Posted by TattooKenny

Is it really that unfair when you can get NIP MOA axles for $150? It's unfair when only a few people can get them, when anyone can get them then it's no different that a guy drag racing with NOS and a guy with a Turbo! Either guy could have what the other guy has but chose what he wanted. Either guy could win.

Guys put more $ into a shaft comp rig than MOA guys! By the time a shaft guy builds his axles he could have bought MOA's with motors!

you're right, I could spent $150 to get a pair of axles...or I could spend 120 to get 2 AX10 Axles and a Transmission, then I could spend $50 each for motors for the MOA rig, or $50 for the single motor for the AX10 tranny, then I could spend whatever a punk dig costs , or 50-90 for a dig for the AX10 tranny, then the electronics....need either dual ESC's or one that'll handle two motors at the same time (and I can't see how you're gonna run two motors off of the same ESC without having some problems, but, I don't run a MOA rig so I don't know).

as far as your remark about the full scale, you're missing the part where I said I consider crawling to be a scaled down version of full scale (maybe I should be building scalers instead of comp rigs, but, what if it's a scaler OF a comp rig?) 1:1 rock crawlers don't have MOA, and thusly I don't agree with them in small ones, however, I also said that's my PERSONAL OPINION, when I go play with others, I don't whine and complain if they've got a MOA rig or they beat me or anything else, I learn from mistakes. As I had pointed out this weekend when I took my wife out crawling with a rig I just finished building for her, it's not about the rig, it's about the skill of the driver. There were lines that I couldn't do with mine, but could do with hers, but she couldn't do with hers because of inexperience. Once I'd made the adjustments to hers that she requested, she walked up every line that my crawler had trouble getting up because she'd paid attention to how I was getting up them. Equipment is 50% of the equation, skill is the rest, and before I call MOA's cheating (which I haven't, I just said I disagree with them), I'm going to make sure it's not driver skill error. If you give me two crawers that're set up identically, weight is the same and the only difference is one is shafty and one is MOA, and then it becomes obvious that one can go places the other can't, then I'll say yes it's an unfair advantage and a separate class is something I'd agree with, just like you separate electric and nitro 1/10th TC's and you separate buggies and truggies in offroad racing. Why do you separate them? Because Buggies and Truggies are 90% the same vehicle but the 10% difference makes a world of difference in performance and handling, and on the whole it's an unfair match up to expect truggies to compete with buggies and vice versa.

roksloski · 11-09-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dezfan

We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

now thats funny...

x2....

indiana mudcat · 11-09-2009, 11:35 AM

driveshafts are a big part of why i got in the hobby, comp rigs might not be scalers but the scale aspect is what i liked. give the moa trucks rear steer and let em die with the supers. i really don't get the sportsman class at all, i thought that was what 1.9 was for.

JUSTGOINGSLOW · 11-09-2009, 11:35 AM

Is this crap still going on

renoirbud · 11-09-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Culetto

The new moa-only class also gets 4ws

I dont see this happening anyway, since the losi is a shafty and also a top finisher at national level events. You really thinking of taking Losi out of the game? doubt it.

The Losi is the reason this is being done, Berg owners are scared.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezfan

We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

At least the one that vote yes on banning shafties. I am certain that all the ones that vote yes to ban shafties will be stepping down this week anyways. (I will help you on step further by exposing all of their name, (_____________________) (yup thats all of them).

Jeepial · 11-09-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dezfan

We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

Never thought I would ever agree on something with Dez...But hey,the sun shines on a dogs a** every once in awhile...

To many rules = NO FUN!!!!!!

I bet Jerry is loving this one...He predicted this crap a year ago...

Code454 · 11-09-2009, 11:52 AM

Wow that pretty lame for you guys in the states like seriously who are the idiots that decided this obviously they know nothing about what people want

KBrog · 11-09-2009, 11:55 AM

After reading all this, there seems to a general concenses that a MOA is better than a Shafty by nature. I say its all propoganda <<< is that spelled right?.Anyway. Its a idea on how to win a race before it starts. If you make your opponent feel like your car is better from the get go then you have an advantage. You are led to believe a MOA is better with comments like, " a Shafty can run with a MOA if its set up right " IMA, a Shafty is way better. I only have to buy one motor and ESC, It cost three times more for a MOA to run with a Shafty. You have to buy burg offset wheels just to fit where a Shafty can go all day out of the box.

BEELZEBOB · 11-09-2009, 11:59 AM

I watch Losi's school Moa all the time.

I really dont see how this would be anywhere near a "truth" as much as an idea.

and if it did, im sure a great deal of local clubs would give the idea a big fat middle finger and run 2.2 just like it is now.

Badd · 11-09-2009, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezfan

We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

Yep and start at the top. Oh and it would be "for the better of the sport" .

k9popo · 11-09-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezfan

We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badd

Yep and start at the top. Oh and it would be "for the better of the sport" .

So what your saying is that RCC needs some change???

I never thought you guys would say that...

JamisonWorkshop · 11-09-2009, 12:15 PM

Shafties took top places this year in our local series. Axial 1st, Axial/Losi /Losirecently converted to MOA took second and me in 3rd with the berg.
All about driver. Shafty was also the most consistent all year with a top 3 every comp. Berg was hit or miss.

Non issue if you ask me.

Super · 11-09-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisjlittle

Did this come from the same mind as the no reverse ESC rule?

Sounds like BS to me, but if it goes through I'll probably give up on comp rigs altogether and just do scalers. Too many rules take the fun out of it.

Sounds like a plan to me. Build a scaler and go have some FUN! Anyone remember that, FUN?

braceysdad · 11-09-2009, 12:28 PM

Does this mean only women will be allowed to compete in 2.2?

Crawln Coles · 11-09-2009, 12:33 PM

You guys didn't hear about the National Crawler Care Reform?

The bill passed & RCC is gonna buy everybody a crawler that doesn't have one on our dime. Shouldn't everybody have a rig? Now get ready for 2010

Culetto · 11-09-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

Its clear from this thread that 50% of the people....

A) Lack reading comprehension skills

B) Don't read past the 1st post

C) Are looking for an excuse to bitch or whine

D) Will believe anything someone posts

E) All of the Above

So we dont get 4ws in elite MOA class?

View Poll Results: MOA Only Class?
Yes, I want a MOA only class	35	14.83%
No, I do not want a MOA only class	201	85.17%
Voters: 236. You may not vote on this poll

11-09-2009, 11:18 AM	#101
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	We need to remove ALL of the rules committee members for stupid shit like this!

11-09-2009, 11:25 AM	#103
Failedabortion Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 848	Maybe to drive up sales...

11-09-2009, 11:35 AM	#107
indiana mudcat RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: reelsville Posts: 1,871	driveshafts are a big part of why i got in the hobby, comp rigs might not be scalers but the scale aspect is what i liked. give the moa trucks rear steer and let em die with the supers. i really don't get the sportsman class at all, i thought that was what 1.9 was for.

11-09-2009, 11:35 AM	#108
JUSTGOINGSLOW RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Commerce Twp. Posts: 1,773	Is this crap still going on

11-09-2009, 11:52 AM	#111
Code454 Hateraide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mission BC Posts: 1,538	Wow that pretty lame for you guys in the states like seriously who are the idiots that decided this obviously they know nothing about what people want

11-09-2009, 11:55 AM	#112
KBrog RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Earth? Posts: 1,698	After reading all this, there seems to a general concenses that a MOA is better than a Shafty by nature. I say its all propoganda <<< is that spelled right?.Anyway. Its a idea on how to win a race before it starts. If you make your opponent feel like your car is better from the get go then you have an advantage. You are led to believe a MOA is better with comments like, " a Shafty can run with a MOA if its set up right " IMA, a Shafty is way better. I only have to buy one motor and ESC, It cost three times more for a MOA to run with a Shafty. You have to buy burg offset wheels just to fit where a Shafty can go all day out of the box.

11-09-2009, 11:59 AM	#113
BEELZEBOB I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: By a lake in Thornton Posts: 2,218	I watch Losi's school Moa all the time. I really dont see how this would be anywhere near a "truth" as much as an idea. and if it did, im sure a great deal of local clubs would give the idea a big fat middle finger and run 2.2 just like it is now.

11-09-2009, 12:15 PM	#116
JamisonWorkshop Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 319	Shafties took top places this year in our local series. Axial 1st, Axial/Losi /Losirecently converted to MOA took second and me in 3rd with the berg. All about driver. Shafty was also the most consistent all year with a top 3 every comp. Berg was hit or miss. Non issue if you ask me.

11-09-2009, 12:28 PM	#118
braceysdad Adilynsdad too! Join Date: May 2004 Location: G ville Posts: 8,844	Does this mean only women will be allowed to compete in 2.2?

11-09-2009, 12:33 PM	#119
Crawln Coles RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Behind the torch! Posts: 1,360	You guys didn't hear about the National Crawler Care Reform? The bill passed & RCC is gonna buy everybody a crawler that doesn't have one on our dime. Shouldn't everybody have a rig? Now get ready for 2010

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