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[dezfan]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Joe defending nazis. Kinda figured that was gonna happen.

Yea, that's what I did.

Typical.

[RANOVRU]

Once again the media strikes. The problem with "race" in this country is that it's been perpetuated that it's ok to be a proud XYZ so long as "white" is not in that description. If you say you are a proud white male or want to preserve white heritage you are deemed a white nationalist, white supremacist, or part of the KKK. If you are white you are supposed to be ashamed and kiss the ground that every other race walks on in this country.

Everyone should be able to be proud of their heritage if they want to. And their ideals shouldn't be forced on the rest of society. Another problem is the issue that society thinks everyone needs to like everyone else. That's NEVER going to happen. But that's ok so long as folks are left alone and not intruded upon. There are blacks that don't like whites and there are whites that don't like blacks, and the same can be said for many other races. It's not an issue until other folks opinions are shoved in the faces of these otherwise normal people.


And "feelings" are my last issue. EVERYONE needs to take a cold shower and stick their shit in the dirt. Your feelings don't matter at all, period. If we continue down this road of "offensiveness" we are doomed. Virtually anything can be found offensive if one deems it. Yet another example of the pussification of America.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by dezfan

Yea, that's what I did.

Typical.

It is exactly what you did. Damn near every single group that showed up to defend their "heritage" were white supremacists with no love for the most basic of American or Christian principals. Instead of condemning them for it, you played them as the victim and focused your rant towards those on the left.

But hey, they had permits, so they're cool.

[dezfan]

I support their rights to express their their opinion. I support the fact that they followed the rule of law and held their rally legally.

As we are a Republic, they did it correctly. Whether or not I agree with their opinion is not the point.

What's interesting is how this entire event is being portrayed.

I know in Libtardia, having an opinion different from PC approved messaging is offensive. But in the America I grew up in, we learned that that offensive or not, you have the right to express those opinions.

Unfortunately for you, you are blinded by your worship at the PC alter. So of course all you can see is, "I defended Nazis".

This is what the Left does, spin the facts of the matter. Ignor the inconvienant true. Attack those who disagree and make it personal.

[Duuuuuuuude]

List of some of the groups involved in organizing the Unite the Right rally.

1. Daily Stormer (neo-nazis)
2. League of the South (southern succesionists)
3. National Policy Institute (white supremacist)
4. National Socialist Movement (nazis)
5. Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights (white supremacists)
6. 3 Percenters (constitutionalists)
7. Traditional Youth Network (white supramacist Christians)
8. Identity Evropa (white supremacists)
9. KKK (white supremacists)

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by RANOVRU

want to preserve white heritage

What is white heritage... European?

[RANOVRU]

Originally Posted by johnnyh66

What is white heritage... European?

What is black heritage....African?

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by dezfan

I support their rights to express their their opinion. I support the fact that they followed the rule of law and held their rally legally.

I never said that they were not or should not be allowed to lawfully assemble. They have that right.

Originally Posted by dezfan

As we are a Republic, they did it correctly. Whether or not I agree with their opinion is not the point.

Agreed. But you do realize that they do not want the US to remain a republic, right? No, of course you don't.

Originally Posted by dezfan

What's interesting is how this entire event is being portrayed.

A bunch of hatemonger bitches having a pity party? Sounds right to me.

Originally Posted by dezfan

I know in Libtardia, having an opinion different from PC approved messaging is offensive. But in the America I grew up in, we learned that that offensive or not, you have the right to express those opinions.

Unfortunately for you, you are blinded by your worship at the PC alter. So of course all you can see is, "I defended Nazis".

This is what the Left does, spin the facts of the matter. Ignor the inconvienant true. Attack those who disagree and make it personal.

It has never been about permits or being PC. They are f*cking nazis. They twist your precious bible into a perverted excuse to be extra shitty to people that aren't the same color. They couldn't give two shits about the basic human rights guaranteed by our Constitution. They are the lowest of the low.

Throughout it all you'd rather attack the people that formed the counter protest.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by johnnyh66

What is white heritage... European?

Yes. But no Jews.

[dezfan]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

List of some of the groups involved in organizing the Unite the Right rally.

1. Daily Stormer (neo-nazis)
2. League of the South (southern succesionists)
3. National Policy Institute (white supremacist)
4. National Socialist Movement (nazis)
5. Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights (white supremacists)
6. 3 Percenters (constitutionalists)
7. Traditional Youth Network (white supramacist Christians)
8. Identity Evropa (white supremacists)
9. KKK (white supremacists)

Point being?

Don't they have the same rights to protest as Liberals?

Or does the fact that their opinions offend you and therefor negate their 1ST Amendment rights?

But keep spinning this weekends events as an "Alt Right" issue. Just like the media is doing.

All the while ignoring that time and time again it's been Leftist groups that have initiated violence.

[Duuuuuuuude]

God damn, you are dense. I've got nothing else to say.

[RANOVRU]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Yes. But no Jews.

You are seriously misinformed on what is really going on.

No race based group is going to promote anything more than their race.

Just a hint and a wink, but it's not just whites....

[Highmark]

Originally Posted by 67mustang

Yeah so the nationalists are rightfully protesting the washing of history. And the counterprotesters should be wise to know that they might get run over while standing in the street.

As much as we may dislike the message, the fringe always has the right to their free speech. Whether it is lost young white men or BLM people.

Originally Posted by dezfan

Man, the "evil alt right" tries to have a peaceful protest and look what happenes.

Like them or not, they too have 1st Amendment rights.

They pulled the neccassary permits and did everything required of them to hold their rally.

Then the dipshit antifa morons and the BLM thugs get bussed in. The "media" is primed to cover the "event" and when the violent leftist commence committing acts of violence, its reported to be caused by the "Trump supporters" as it's an "Alt Right" event.

Originally Posted by dezfan

I support their rights to express their their opinion. I support the fact that they followed the rule of law and held their rally legally.

As we are a Republic, they did it correctly. Whether or not I agree with their opinion is not the point.

What's interesting is how this entire event is being portrayed.

Originally Posted by dezfan

Point being?

Don't they have the same rights to protest as Liberals?

Or does the fact that their opinions offend you and therefor negate their 1ST Amendment rights?

But keep spinning this weekends events as an "Alt Right" issue. Just like the media is doing.

All the while ignoring that time and time again it's been Leftist groups that have initiated violence.

I think you all are too busy preaching to remember that the folks on the other side have the same rights as the hate groups. The majority of American's aren't hate mongering morons, I would expect more people to show up, even if they drown out the message of the other group that doesn't change their right to do so - this is no different than when Westboro comes to town. Oh, and while we're talking about violence, and how funny it is that a terrorist and coward murdered a bunch of people in cold blood, let's not forget who he was associated with.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by RANOVRU

You are seriously misinformed on what is really going on.

No race based group is going to promote anything more than their race.

Just a hint and a wink, but it's not just whites....

Really? I've spent the last couple of days lurking some of the websites of the groups I listed above. I'm relatively familiar with what they stand for, what they want, and who they don't like. I was already familiar with a few, but not all of them.

I'm fully aware that it's not just the whites, but at this point in time, the whites are the largest, most organized, most mobilized and militarized group. That makes them the biggest and most immediate threat.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by Highmark

Oh, and while we're talking about violence, and how funny it is that a terrorist and coward murdered a bunch of people in cold blood, let's not forget who he was associated with.

Whatever idiot group he was standing with disavowed him as soon as his name was released. Yeah, he was standing there dressed like them, holding their shields with their logo on it, but they didn't know him.


But holy hell, if he were a Muslim, standing with a bunch of other Muslims, they'd all be guilty.

[dezfan]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

God damn, you are dense. I've got nothing else to say.

Why, because I won't play into your narrative?

When I see you vehemently condemning Antifa, BLM, etc... as "hatemongering bitches" and I see you condemning the violence they incite against innocent people with the same vitriol. I'll take your "righteous indignation" more seriously.

Until then, your just another closet Leftist that can only see what it is you want to see.

[Highmark]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

God damn, you are dense. I've got nothing else to say.

I'm legitimately curious of where this crazy-ass narrative is coming from. I read a fair amount of 'alt-right' crap just to stay up to date on what canned responses I can expect, but this shit is on another level. It's like they all hit "****-it" finally.

[dezfan]

Originally Posted by Highmark

I think you all are too busy preaching to remember that the folks on the other side have the same rights as the hate groups. The majority of American's aren't hate mongering morons, I would expect more people to show up, even if they drown out the message of the other group that doesn't change their right to do so - this is no different than when Westboro comes to town. Oh, and while we're talking about violence, and how funny it is that a terrorist and coward murdered a bunch of people in cold blood, let's not forget who he was associated with.

Are those dudes Antifa or Nazis?

I can't tell em apart.

In reality, they are two sides of the same coin.

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by RANOVRU

No race based group is going to promote anything more than their race.

Just a hint and a wink, but it's not just whites....

My point of view is that all people in this country must be one, live and let live...

If the melting pot is a failed experiment, then that means my ancestors died for nothing more than the greed and fear of a conquering force.

I suggest anyone who is not in for the idea of the melting pot, the ideals of The United States of America... go back to whatever homogeneous society they came from.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by dezfan

Why, because I won't play into your narrative?

When I see you vehemently condemning Antifa, BLM, etc... as "hatemongering bitches" and I see you condemning the violence they incite against innocent people with the same vitriol. I'll take your "righteous indignation" more seriously.

Until then, your just another closet Leftist that can only see what it is you want to see.

Because you're focusing on semantics that aren't relevant to the situation in an effort to discredit the left leaning counter protesters. Whether or not the nazis had the legal right to be there is not, nor ever was the point.

I did take a minute to condemn them, but only a minute because they weren't the subject of the discussion. I've also condemned them in the past. See what you want to see...