Vehicle class questions (legality for event)

[teague]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Devlin is our handicap system.....

[Waiting Dragon]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

C2 ^^^^^^^ ???????????

Yes Class 2, I went to bed then realized my question was incomplete!

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Waiting Dragon

Yes Class 2, I went to bed then realized my question was incomplete!

Not feeling the Unimog bed but it looks really light! So is that your Class 2 rig?

[hotwheels000]

Originally Posted by Waiting Dragon

Yes Class 2, I went to bed then realized my question was incomplete!

Not sure if I understood the question.Here is the requirements for C2

• Body/cage work must be at least 4.5" tall (including boat sides) and the inside of the front tires cannot extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors.

Fender flares play no part in this dimension/ratio. Your rig looks perfectly fine the way it sits,but fender flairs would look cool on it

[Waiting Dragon]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Not feeling the Unimog bed but it looks really light! So is that your Class 2 rig?

I know is not the most scale looking, but I am thinking more practical. Dean Hsiao a.k.a Chino63 had a Unimog bed on his Class 3 red FJ. And yes that is my intended Class 2, is not all that light is has a Traxxas Summit 2 speed tranny and a Summit cradle.

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

Not sure if I understood the question.Here is the requirements for C2

• Body/cage work must be at least 4.5" tall (including boat sides) and the inside of the front tires cannot extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors.

Fender flares play no part in this dimension/ratio. Your rig looks perfectly fine the way it sits,but fender flairs would look cool on it

The cab is 5 inches tall, no boat sides or rock sliders yet, I remember reading somewhere on the rules about a 1/2 inch limit past the fender flares for the outside of the tires to stick out. Is possible it might have been for Class 1.

I just wanna make sure I do not go all the way to WA. and get turned around because my little truck is not scale enough, Thanks for the replies guys I hope this was a little more explanatory, let me know if I am a go or not!

Thanks again!

[Waiting Dragon]

One more thing it might still be kinda of a work in progress if that is o.k. too!

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Waiting Dragon

I know is not the most scale looking, but I am thinking more practical. Dean Hsiao a.k.a Chino63 had a Unimog bed on his Class 3 red FJ.

That's right he did, and it looked great. I guess paint makes all the difference.

Originally Posted by Waiting Dragon

And yes that is my intended Class 2, is not all that light is has a Traxxas Summit 2 speed tranny and a Summit cradle.

Sounds like it's pretty fast. How's that hardbody cab going to hold up?

Originally Posted by Waiting Dragon

The cab is 5 inches tall, no boat sides or rock sliders yet, I remember reading somewhere on the rules about a 1/2 inch limit past the fender flares for the outside of the tires to stick out. Is possible it might have been for Class 1.

Those were old class 1 rules. In class 2 the inside of the tires can't be wider than the widest part of the doors. Basically you can't have a skinny truck with the tires sticking way out (keeps c2 rigs looking a bit more scale).

Originally Posted by Waiting Dragon

I just wanna make sure I do not go all the way to WA. and get turned around because my little truck is not scale enough, Thanks for the replies guys I hope this was a little more explanatory, let me know if I am a go or not!

Thanks again!

Just post up any pics or questions as you build or come up with new ideas....we'll steer you the right way. Plus read up on the rules so it's fresh in you mind.

2012 SORCCA Scale Rules

[doublej]

I have ruling question - WarPig you touched on this - but IDK how you guys measure this stuff. So just to me sure....

- Class2
-The inside of the front tires cannot extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors."
I read this straight forward - my cab is 5.5in - my trex60s with swamper 1.9s is 5.5 inside to inside tire. A little hex shaving and the weight of rig on the tires - tight fit but I am just right.
Sound correct?

[SDS Customz]

Originally Posted by doublej

I have ruling question - WarPig you touched on this - but IDK how you guys measure this stuff. So just to me sure....

- Class2
-The inside of the front tires cannot extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors."
I read this straight forward - my cab is 5.5in - my trex60s with swamper 1.9s is 5.5 inside to inside tire. A little hex shaving and the weight of rig on the tires - tight fit but I am just right.
Sound correct?

sounds like you read the rules to a "T"

[doublej]

I try - Hows them old limbs of yours?

[Grizzly4x4]

I just want to clarify for me and maybe for the benefit of others. Is Guido considered a tuber?

The rectangular frame rails run full length and the tube work is bolted to it. However there are no structural crossmembers bolted to the frame rails that are not welded to the tube work. Other than the skidplate. You could not remove the tube work and have a driveable vehicle. By the wording of the rules though, a tuber must be made entirely of tube.
As a tuber I assume the following points:
Tuber: -8
Rigid plastic body panels: -1 (the lexan panels are mounted individually to the tube work and are therefore rigid)
Sliders: -3
Bumpers: metal -3 (rear)

If Guido is not considered a tuber, does he get the following points?
Tube bed: -3
Rigid plastic body panels: -1 (or does this only apply to tubers?)
Interior cage: -3
Integrated tube shock mounts: -1 (front), -1 (rear)
Sliders: -3
Bumpers: metal -3 (rear)

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

I just want to clarify for me and maybe for the benefit of others. Is Guido considered a tuber?

The rectangular frame rails run full length and the tube work is bolted to it. However there are no structural crossmembers bolted to the frame rails that are not welded to the tube work. Other than the skidplate. You could not remove the tube work and have a driveable vehicle. By the wording of the rules though, a tuber must be made entirely of tube.
As a tuber I assume the following points:
Tuber: -8
Rigid plastic body panels: -1 (the lexan panels are mounted individually to the tube work and are therefore rigid)
Sliders: -3
Bumpers: metal -3 (rear)

If Guido is not considered a tuber, does he get the following points?
Tube bed: -3
Rigid plastic body panels: -1 (or does this only apply to tubers?)
Interior cage: -3
Integrated tube shock mounts: -1 (front), -1 (rear)
Sliders: -3
Bumpers: metal -3 (rear)

So, I think I'd consider it a standard rail chassis vehicle, although this rig is definitely a "tweener".

If Guido is not considered a tuber, does he get the following points?
Tube bed: -3 Yes
Rigid plastic body panels: -1 (or does this only apply to tubers?) No, must be rigid plastic or metal....no lexan.
Interior cage: -3 Yes
Integrated tube shock mounts: -1 (front), -1 (rear) Yes
Sliders: -3 Yes
Bumpers: metal -3 (rear) Yes, but I'd give you -3 points for a front bumper as well.


I come up with -17

[Grizzly4x4]

Originally Posted by War Pig

So, I think I'd consider it a standard rail chassis vehicle, although this rig is definitely a "tweener".

If Guido is not considered a tuber, does he get the following points?
Tube bed: -3 Yes
Rigid plastic body panels: -1 (or does this only apply to tubers?) No, must be rigid plastic or metal....no lexan.
Interior cage: -3 Yes
Integrated tube shock mounts: -1 (front), -1 (rear) Yes
Sliders: -3 Yes
Bumpers: metal -3 (rear) Yes, but I'd give you -3 points for a front bumper as well.


I come up with -17

Fair enough Tim. I can make arguments with myself either way because like you said, it's kind of a 'tweener. I just wanted to be clear.

[War Pig]

Shhh! You get more points if you don't point it as a tuber .

[bmuzz1]

I've got a question for you and maybe it has been asked...Can I compete with the same Chassis in C1 and C2 and just change out the body, wheels and a few other little things or do I need a completely different rig?

Reason I ask is I signed up for C1 since there were no C2 tickets left and was going to rebuild my C2 rig into a C1. Now that there are going to be few more C2 tickets available i'd be able to change it back in an hour or two if allowed.

[Difuser]

As long as the truck meets the specs for its repsective class then yes you can. Or unless you make Tim mad then no you couldn't.
You won't be running C1 and 2 on the same days anyways so you would be good.

[bmuzz1]

That's what I figured, thanks!

[SDS Customz]

Yes you can run a truck in multiple classes, As long as it fits the rules of the class

[Waiting Dragon]

Just to make sure I measured the widest part of the cab at the doors and is 7 inches wide, the inside of the tires measures 6 3/8 inches wide. And it looks like this:

[War Pig]

Yer good to go!