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Old 05-26-2016, 08:55 AM   #301
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Killa, What would excite you? A submersible SCX10 that can also fly and is 1:1 street legal. I would think your standards would be much lower having owned so many TF2s.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:05 AM   #302
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I know the trans is bulky but it looks like they changed the motor mount setup. It looks more like the previous motor mount vs the bulky setup on the yeti/bomber.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:20 AM   #303
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
Yes I do, I'm talking about the ugly body. The new axial one and the 1:1. I did say sorry to anyone who likes them though.
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If I ever got my Chevy stuck a Cherokee wouldn't be able to get to me. Regardless though, it wouldn't make one any prettier.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:27 AM   #304
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Yes I do, I'm talking about the ugly body. The new axial one and the 1:1. I did say sorry to anyone who likes them though.


If I ever got my Chevy stuck a Cherokee wouldn't be able to get to me. Regardless though, it wouldn't make one any prettier.
True if you get a Chevy stuck it's best just to leave since its probably to rusted to save anyway
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:30 AM   #305
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I'll wait to see one in person before I call it a flop. As of right now though there isn't anything really exciting about what I've seen. JMO
Actually it is kinda of exciting, mostly because they haven't done anything to the SCX10 platform in like 8 years except change bodies and wheels & tires.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:31 AM   #306
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I know the trans is bulky but it looks like they changed the motor mount setup. It looks more like the previous motor mount vs the bulky setup on the yeti/bomber.
I like this, just wish it was mounted up front instead of in the center of the chassis. Maybe the kit has the option of mounting up front.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:36 AM   #307
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I have never broken an Axial axle housing and the new plastic is even better than the old stuff. I'm sure these housings will be plenty stronk for truck playing.
Unfortunately I have, but they we're on 2.2 comps rigs taking big falls during the winter. I love Axial's plastic compound!
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:37 AM   #308
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I like this, just wish it was mounted up front instead of in the center of the chassis. Maybe the kit has the option of mounting up front.
If Axial handles it like the Yeti 2 speed kit then it will be an optional add kit that comes out a year after the aftermarket solves the problem for half the cost.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:41 AM   #309
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Yes I do, I'm talking about the ugly body. The new axial one and the 1:1. I did say sorry to anyone who likes them though.


If I ever got my Chevy stuck a Cherokee wouldn't be able to get to me. Regardless though, it wouldn't make one any prettier.
The dude in the RAM 2500 down over the 10 foot embankment said that same thing. Saved him the tow truck fee. We met up for beers later that week.

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Old 05-26-2016, 09:42 AM   #310
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Hello M550,
Please give us some perspective to draw from. What vehicle do you drive?
Just truck right on over to P4X4 and tell all the XJ'ers how feminine you think their XJ's are. Here, made it easy for ya! Jeep - Cherokee - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
But hey, if Axial is targeting girls, is that such a bad thing? We have more girls at AXIALFEST than any other R/C even on the planet! AND our girls are participating! Yes, they drive! Our moms brought us into this world, may as well be in a 4X4!

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I think axial did a good thing with the Cherokee body by targeting a more female audience. I can easily swap it out for a Chevy body and sell the soccer mom body to whoever actually likes it. Sorry jeep fans, but that's one of the ugliest 4x4's ever made in the 1:1 world. Good job axial for broadening your market and targeting more beginners.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:42 AM   #311
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I for one don't give a shoe string f**k what it looks like. I'm buying one regardless like I do to all there products and i think most of you will to..I wouldn't touch a thing.....well maybe one thing,change it to 2 door instead of 4..Way to go Axial keep up the good work..
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:44 AM   #312
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I just don't see how anyone could call this rig a flop. It's got huge improvements over the original, tried-and-true-never-say-die SCX10. I didn't know it was mandatory to have to use the kit body and I didn't know you couldn't mod a new kit, must be against the rules or something. People always jump on the "it's a flop" wagon before they have even seen one in real life. No kit is ever 100% perfect for everyone but seriously I don't understand why some people are already hating on something that isn't even available yet. So it may not be released to your specific specs and liking, but when did that stop creativity in building your rig to your liking? It's another platform for us to enjoy, I can't see how that is in even the slightest a negative.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:52 AM   #313
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X2 Ty. Just because YOU (not you, Ty haha) don't like its features doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. It's called an opinion. Not everyone has to agree. Also, as I keep saying, noobs like me will be perfectly okay with its features (and body, which still looks good) and us noobs don't have to listen to the haters. So, naysayers of this thread, you're not getting any agreement from me.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:54 AM   #314
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I just don't see how anyone could call this rig a flop. It's got huge improvements over the original, tried-and-true-never-say-die SCX10. I didn't know it was mandatory to have to use the kit body and I didn't know you couldn't mod a new kit, must be against the rules or something. People always jump on the "it's a flop" wagon before they have even seen one in real life. No kit is ever 100% perfect for everyone but seriously I don't understand why some people are already hating on something that isn't even available yet. So it may not be released to your specific specs and liking, but when did that stop creativity in building your rig to your liking? It's another platform for us to enjoy, I can't see how that is in even the slightest a negative.
You nailed it Ty. Whenever a new PLATFORM comes out, everyone assumes it better be the perfect rig for themselves and everyone else. That's impossible. Instead people need to look at these trucks as all blank canvases, especially when they come in kit form. I'm not even excited about every part of this new kit but I am extremely excited about making every part of this kit mine.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:56 AM   #315
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Targeting females is a good thing for sure and that's how it was meant. My perspective of the Cherokee is that it is ugly and that's just my opinion, didn't know other people actually like it. Performance of a Cherokee was never brought up by me, just the ugliness. I drive a 2 door Tahoe and know it wouldn't easily get through small jeep trails, but if I wanted to go through small trails a Cherokee would be the last thing I'd buy. Not because it's not a Chevy or because it wouldn't perform, but because it's ugly. That land cruiser is much better looking than a Cherokee. I'm not all show and no go by any means either, my truck is older, but looks better than any Cherokee ever will.

Anyway, I get some guys like the Cherokees and may think they're the best looking rigs made so I'll move on with my opinion that no Cherokee will ever look better than any full size Chevy. Just my preference.
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Old 05-26-2016, 10:03 AM   #316
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Old 05-26-2016, 10:05 AM   #317
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Monster 550, how can you say you're not all show and no go when you admit your truck is an inferior performer yet like it best because you think it looks better?

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Old 05-26-2016, 10:16 AM   #318
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I just don't see how anyone could call this rig a flop. It's got huge improvements over the original, tried-and-true-never-say-die SCX10. I didn't know it was mandatory to have to use the kit body and I didn't know you couldn't mod a new kit, must be against the rules or something. People always jump on the "it's a flop" wagon before they have even seen one in real life. No kit is ever 100% perfect for everyone but seriously I don't understand why some people are already hating on something that isn't even available yet. So it may not be released to your specific specs and liking, but when did that stop creativity in building your rig to your liking? It's another platform for us to enjoy, I can't see how that is in even the slightest a negative.
I agree, this just goes to show that you will never be able to please all of the people all of the time.

Axial has made some HUGE improvements with this new chassis, hell, just the new axles and steering angles right out of the box are enormous. We have had to spend $40-$65 on just axles to even begin to get 45 degree's of steering with the original SCX setup not to mention chubs and knuckles, and add to that the cost of pieces to do a CMS setup. If the new helical cut gears in the 44 axle really do help with torque twist that will be a big gain, not to mention the smaller pumpkin, increased ground clearance, and lord knows how much time and effort it can take to get the original axles set up with correct caster without running into driveline bind when running something like MIP's. The raised pinion will be a boon to those who actually care about having correct positive caster angles. I have two SCX's with the rear of the transmission shimmed to lower the front driveline angles to get caster correct.

I personally like the Yeti/Bomber transmission due to the ability to add a two speed, but the fact that they have designed the chassis to be able to run the original SCX trans shows the amount of thought that went into it. In order to make the original SCX trans bulletproof you have to add metal gears, one piece output shaft and the original plastic gearcase strips out easily. I have yet to read about anyone destroying a Yeti/Bomber trans. I am running a Holmes 3500xl in my Bomber on 3s (crazy power) and that trans has not even had a hiccup even with running a SSD 2 speed.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, but lets at least give it a chance to prove itself....
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Old 05-26-2016, 10:20 AM   #319
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"This chassis is designed at 12.3” wheelbase length, but is easily adjusted to either a 11.4” or 12.0” wheelbase (optional link kits sold separately). Axial designed the chassis so that all the wheelbase adjustability happens out back without sacrificing front-end suspension geometry. Simple removal and installation of the suspension links and changing the drive shaft length allows an easier way to adjust the wheelbase."

This alone is super smart.
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Old 05-26-2016, 10:23 AM   #320
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Great points Ty!

But, lets just tighten it up a scratch more... Lets define the term, "It's a flop!"
In order for it to actually "flop" doesn't it require a defined amount of time actually on the market and available for sale?
Is there a formula for what makes a movie flop?



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I just don't see how anyone could call this rig a flop. It's got huge improvements over the original, tried-and-true-never-say-die SCX10. I didn't know it was mandatory to have to use the kit body and I didn't know you couldn't mod a new kit, must be against the rules or something. People always jump on the "it's a flop" wagon before they have even seen one in real life. No kit is ever 100% perfect for everyone but seriously I don't understand why some people are already hating on something that isn't even available yet. So it may not be released to your specific specs and liking, but when did that stop creativity in building your rig to your liking? It's another platform for us to enjoy, I can't see how that is in even the slightest a negative.
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