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Old 11-13-2011, 01:29 PM   #81
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I would like to do some crawling but not a ton. I would like decent speed but still be able to go in water, so no brushless. I was thinking sidewinder or holmes esc, but i'm stuck on what motor to get the best speed with and still be able to go in water.
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Yeah the first post basically covers it. With a brushed motor you aren't going to get much faster then stock. A 13t Crawlmaster or 27t Torquemaster.
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Old 11-13-2011, 02:21 PM   #82
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Yeah the first post basically covers it. With a brushed motor you aren't going to get much faster then stock. A 13t Crawlmaster or 27t Torquemaster.
Ok thanks. that is good to know
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:28 AM   #83
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How is the 18,5T Novak Goat 3S gonna perform? I'm currently running 3S lipo on stock motor and ESC, but the motor is starting to smell funny. What I'm looking for is some more torque and maybe a hair more wheelspeed. I also want to keep some dragbrake, maybe like the stock. Or maybe go a totally different direction and go for HH BR-XL and a brushed motor, I'm really pleased with the performance of the HH in my Wheely king running 3S.
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How is the 18,5T Novak Goat 3S gonna perform? I'm currently running 3S lipo on stock motor and ESC, but the motor is starting to smell funny. What I'm looking for is some more torque and maybe a hair more wheelspeed. I also want to keep some dragbrake, maybe like the stock. Or maybe go a totally different direction and go for HH BR-XL and a brushed motor, I'm really pleased with the performance of the HH in my Wheely king running 3S.
Stay away from Novak. Terrible drag brake technology. I have never ran a brushless I disliked more. if you want more speed then go mamba max pro and 13.5 Tekin. That part is covered in the first posts.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:39 AM   #85
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Stay away from Novak. Terrible drag brake technology. I have never ran a brushless I disliked more. if you want more speed then go mamba max pro and 13.5 Tekin. That part is covered in the first posts.

I can justify that is an awesome combo as i am running that. Swap the pinion/spur to the 32 pitch and crank down your slipper. (I wanna get rid of my slipper but what do you need? Not helpin if its cranked down, Eh. Dont really care losin a $5 spur gear once in a while) second thought don't crank the slipper if runnin plastic transmissision gears. still a really good combo.
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I can justify that is an awesome combo as i am running that. Swap the pinion/spur to the 32 pitch and crank down your slipper. (I wanna get rid of my slipper but what do you need? Not helpin if its cranked down, Eh. Dont really care losin a $5 spur gear once in a while) second thought don't crank the slipper if runnin plastic transmissision gears. still a really good combo.
For the money there are much better choices. It works but if you have driven the other systems you'd understand.
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Just dropped a Traxxas 21t 550 stinger in my Wraith running on a Castle SV2 ESC. I have 20/87 gearing.
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UPDATE!

Upped the gearing to 22/87 and through in a 3s lipo.. Yee haw.. Low speed control and lots of speed.
10 minutes of beating the crap out of it in my yard with about 85 donuts and 50 sliding power turns. Did some crawling over the wood pile and then checked the temp on the motor. 105*f and I used 600 mah out if a 3000 mah 20c 3s zippy lipo.
Broke the bumper mount when I crashed into my wife's ford escape, but other than that it was Awesome..
Highly recommend this as a cheap upgrade.



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Old 11-15-2011, 09:26 AM   #88
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Started with a mmp & d317.5 (ok), went to hh11t alittle to hot it got but works great in my scaler and finally back to mmp w/ tekin pro4 3300 and for the 15min I played all I can say is wow !! Also went to 32p 12/54.wheely if u want and she seem to climb no problems on my little house course. True test to come this weekend!
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For the money there are much better choices. It works but if you have driven the other systems you'd understand.

I meant the Tekin 13.5& MMpro. Drag brake kinda sucks. I have the Holmes 13 turn and his Speedo on order. Tell John you video is good advertising.
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I meant the Tekin 13.5& MMpro. Drag brake kinda sucks. I have the Holmes 13 turn and his Speedo on order. Tell John you video is good advertising.
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After i burnt up a couple motors (the stock one, then a hpi 27t) i read up and changed the gears. i ended up with 87/18 48p and it made it crawl like a champ with another 27t, but it was slow. my 4yo could run faster than it. i picked up a 3s lipo today and threw that in. it crawls awesome still, but is fast like it was stock. after a good 30min of full throttle thru the leafs and 10 min in the rocks, the motor was warm, but i was able to touch it. a huge improvement. re-gearing should have been the first thing i did.

next is a holmes 13t and brxl (hopeing for a christmas present)

thanks for all the info everyone

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I just smoked the another axial 20 turn on mine... Stock gearing, mmp and 3s. I have spare axial 27t im gunna thdow in temporary or until another smoke show lol. I wanna go brushless but my lhs only has a couple tekins now bout 110. A piece

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I just smoked the another axial 20 turn on mine... Stock gearing, mmp and 3s. I have spare axial 27t im gunna thdow in temporary or until another smoke show lol. I wanna go brushless but my lhs only has a couple tekins now bout 110. A piece

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Im not super familiar with gearing would i b aiming for higher speed or torque... Can u suggest a good pair to start out with

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Im not super familiar with gearing would i b aiming for higher speed or torque... Can u suggest a good pair to start out with

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Try out 84 spur 16 pinion. The stock gearing is too high and can cause motors to burn up quickly.
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Try out 84 spur 16 pinion. The stock gearing is too high and can cause motors to burn up quickly.

I'm usin 32 pitch spur. 12/54 on the holmes 13 turn is to high?
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I'm usin 32 pitch spur. 12/54 on the holmes 13 turn is to high?
No that's fine. He wants to use a stock axial motor which is just a lower quality motor then a handwound. Lower gearing will just help it last.
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Im all for spendin 100 for a can, just dont want to fry it lol

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Im all for spendin 100 for a can, just dont want to fry it lol

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I'd throw that Axial in and get the gearing where you like it. Then upgrade. If you aren't super familiar with gearing it'll be a great exercise to practice.
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Question can the stock axial ESC AE-2 handle a 11 turn cobalt or is it limited to all 20 turn motors thank you.
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