Hobbywing Quicrun Waterproof 1080 Brushed Crawling ESC

[dna4engr]

Originally Posted by ElChupacabra

In english doc.... what are you trying to say? The 1080 should handle a 13T Puller?

Yes it should. Especially with it's high amp capability.

Just like HH crawlmaster vs. torquemaster motors. The crawlmaster line is 5 slot which means lower number of turns is relatable to a 3 slot's higher number of turns.

For example a 16t crawlmaster will be similar in wheelspeed to a 30-35t torquemaster. 13t CM is similar to 27t TM

I'm not an expert on the situation, just know enough to be dangerous.

The 5 slot has smoother startup, but the 3 slot has more torque.

[UGLY]

Originally Posted by Hardcoretam

When you see "motor limits" on ESC's it's just a rough guide. I've had some ESC's burn up on motors they should be able to handle due to aggressive driving and poor gearing and i've had other speed controls run motors way faster than they're rated just by driving carefully and having conservative gearing.

As others mentioned, the 13T puller motor is a bit different from other brushed motors and would have similar RPM to a good 27t brushed IIRC



Easily

Swapping the esc would do nothing if he already had an esc that ran the 13t motor it. It would all appear fine.

Swapping motors to a compatible turn would show if the esc were the problem. Put a compatible motor in and if it runs perfect you know it was the 13t that caused the problem. If the problem persists with a compatible motor then you know its the esc.

[Hardcoretam]

Originally Posted by UGLY

Swapping the esc would do nothing if he already had an esc that ran the 13t motor it. It would all appear fine.

Swapping motors to a compatible turn would show if the esc were the problem. Put a compatible motor in and if it runs perfect you know it was the 13t that caused the problem. If the problem persists with a compatible motor then you know its the esc.

This is the thing, the motor is compatible.
Motor turns with brushed determines amp draw and rpm and the 13t in question is easily within the 1080's capabilities.

If another motor is tried and it works fine with the other motor that doesn't eliminate bad gear mesh (if meshed badly with the first motor) or a bad motor

[ElChupacabra]

I got plenty of feedback which is much appreciated. I'll mess with it and report back. Could be a lot of things. Just thought somebody might have a definitive answer.

[UGLY]

Originally Posted by Hardcoretam

This is the thing, the motor is compatible.
Motor turns with brushed determines amp draw and rpm and the 13t in question is easily within the 1080's capabilities.

If another motor is tried and it works fine with the other motor that doesn't eliminate bad gear mesh (if meshed badly with the first motor) or a bad motor

You can speculate but 13t is not compatible as shown. Also if you look at rpm ratings they are all for 7.4v 2s. Check the hobbywing website.

[Hardcoretam]

Originally Posted by UGLY

You can speculate but 13t is not compatible as shown. Also if you look at rpm ratings they are all for 7.4v 2s. Check the hobbywing website.

As mentioned, turn limits are only a guide. You could get away with running an 15t motor on a 27t limit ESC if you're careful enough with driving and gearing.

The only important factor when worrying about if your brushed ESC can handle a brushed motor is the amp limit on the ESC and how many amps the motor pulls

The ESC has no way of knowing what size of motor or how many turns it has.

[UGLY]

Originally Posted by Hardcoretam

As mentioned, turn limits are only a guide. You could get away with running an 15t motor on a 27t limit ESC if you're careful enough with driving and gearing.

The only important factor when worrying about if your brushed ESC can handle a brushed motor is the amp limit on the ESC and how many amps the motor pulls

The ESC has no way of knowing what size of motor or how many turns it has.

You should email hobbywing and tell them all about it. All my info comes from the wp1080 specs chart.

[mhowzit]

I have the HH 13t in my Wraith and SCX10. 3S in the Wraith and 2S in the SCX10. 32p spur & pinion in both running 56/10 with underdrive gears in front and rear of both. Been running this way for a few months now. Everything is smooth as silk and stays nice and cool.

[UGLY]

Originally Posted by mhowzit

I have the HH 13t in my Wraith and SCX10. 3S in the Wraith and 2S in the SCX10. 32p spur & pinion in both running 56/10 with underdrive gears in front and rear of both. Been running this way for a few months now. Everything is smooth as silk and stays nice and cool.

Thanks for the info,

[redemon]

I will be installing a HH13T in mine with the 1080.
Will report back

[MAGNUMB]

Going to run a Specter 13T with the 1080 on a TF2 2-Speed with 48p gears.

[ElChupacabra]

Help...

[fortyeightjake]

Alrighty, I'm all set up for another test run. Current config is a HH Trailmaster Sport 27t (wired in the correct direction) with an 11t pinion (stock was 13), 3S power, and the rest is stock SCX10ii. Settings are as follows.

3,1,3,9,4,3,7,1,9,1,1,3,4,1,1

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

[Hardcoretam]

I've trimmed my cables right back now and got it really nice and neat looking.
Likewise with the settings. Each time i take it out, i find a few more adjustments i can make to get it perfect to how i want it.

Bit less drag brake, less punch control, more start power and 16k resolution and that should do it

[ElChupacabra]

Got my rig running fine. Or at least it seems to be fine. It was snowing today so I didn't take it outside but a whole pack of basement trials including some intentional binding didn't cause any issues. I think the transmission was a little tight

[mhowzit]

Originally Posted by MAGNUMB

Going to run a Specter 13T with the 1080 on a TF2 2-Speed with 48p gears.

I'm not familiar with a Specter 13T. Is it a standard 3 slot armature or a 5 slot, like the HH 13t?

[351Beno]

Originally Posted by mhowzit

I'm not familiar with a Specter 13T. Is it a standard 3 slot armature or a 5 slot, like the HH 13t?

The Brood 13t is a cvr 5 segment arm.

[Hardcoretam]

Originally Posted by ElChupacabra

Got my rig running fine. Or at least it seems to be fine. It was snowing today so I didn't take it outside but a whole pack of basement trials including some intentional binding didn't cause any issues. I think the transmission was a little tight

Good stuff.
Have you changed any settings on it yet? How you finding it for smoothness and heat?

[351Beno]

Originally Posted by ElChupacabra

Got my rig running fine. Or at least it seems to be fine. It was snowing today so I didn't take it outside but a whole pack of basement trials including some intentional binding didn't cause any issues. I think the transmission was a little tight

Hey just a thought but a dirty throttle pot on your tx can cause a surge. My 4px had a nasty surge weird thing was it only did it on a few of my trucks. I got lucky only need to blow the junk out of it and its been working great now.
Just something else to think of.

[mhowzit]

Originally Posted by 351Beno

The Brood 13t is a cvr 5 segment arm.

Cool, thanks for the info! I'm checking them out right now.