Look what Snata did not bring me

[kgb424]

do you read

Again GCM make a 21'' leaf spring chassis just like the one I put the flip up Toyota body on

its the 17.7'' chassis and wheel base goes 10'' to 12.86'' the Toyota is 11.4''

I want to know what is the wheel base of the 21'' chassis and if I can get a 16 1/4'' wheel base out of the chassis

and I have contacted GCM at least 3 times about the 21'' chassis and got no reply's

and there are 2 other venders that said they do custom work and both them

mentioned stretched chassis work and pricing was available

got no reply's from any of them

So my money is no good

[kgb424]

with some axle shaving and drilling 2 holes where the lower link and shock loops mount

And depending on the width of the 4 Ten 21'' chassis

I could be able to make leaf spring-ed AR60 axles

I called GCM today and there 21'' chassis 4 Ten chassis

Is the same as my 17.7'' chassis only 4'' longer with the same motor forward plate and transfer case

I did as the guy from GCM suggested and held up my 17'7'' chassis to Humvee body

And the chassis layout is wrong, it would work not work, I need the right chassis

plus the Wraith axles, the off set of the pumpkin is wrong and the axles stick too far on one side

if the AR60 axles were four linked the off set of axles is perfect, they won't work with the leaf springs

[kgb424]

This what you are asked for a custom frame to be made

I'm having problems with my math or the Humvee body is 5/32'' thick

because

A = 1 5/8''

B = 16 1/4''

C = 3 9/16''

so 21 3/4'' - 16 1/4'' = 5 1/2''

5 1/2'' - 1 5/8'' = 3 7/8''

3 7/8'' - 3 9/16'' = 5/16''

5/16'' divide by 2 is 5/32''

Are hard bodies 5/32'' thick I don't know

It makes sense, you are supposed to measure the inside of the grill and the inside of the bed

the over all 21 3/4'' was measured on the outside of the body

my math or my measuring is off by 5/16'' of inch

I need some one smarter than me to figure this shit

cause my head hurts and math sucks

Where in the **** is the professor

Cause Gilligan is right here

And need to get off this ****ing sinking Island

[Mike Flea]

Take a look at Norton's Gladiator build, I think he had a frame made for his Gladiator from BPC and I think it was a 19 inch wheelbase

[kgb424]

I bought 2 pieces of 1/8'' by 4'' by 24'' plate

And really don't want to pay another $100 plus for a chassis

I need some one to print me the correct chassis with the right shocks loops

So I can make a decent template, better than the cardboard one I made by the time you trace it out

your adding a 1/16'' or more that has to ground off to get the chassis to 1/2'' evenly and look good

but with a template made out the right paper and cut with a straight edge, by some one who knows what they are doing, not me attempting it for the first time

I wont have to clean them up as much

Cause if I knew what I was doing it would be built by now

[kgb424]

I have contacted BPC chassis 3 times starting 2 1/2 weeks before Xmas, before and after new years

its now been over a month and half closer to 2 months since the first request and no reply

make that 4 times just did it again

it auto filled in my info cause I have been there and ****ing done that on their contact page 4 times now

So them in there neck

I'll keep my money and my business

I hope they do reply so I can tell them

Too go selves

My cage has been rattled and its on

[TacoCrawler]

I understand your frustrations brother...

but realize that I had never built an rc chassis neither
prior to my efforts.
And those bumpers I made for you...
first time effort as well.

A welder, vise and a 4.5 cut-off wheel is all have and utilized.
And to be quite honest...
I wasn't having fun doing it.

My results are acceptable for me...
but then I'm not anal about it either.
Doing things for other folk...
well... that a whole other ball of wax.

It's just a simple matter of measuring and adding or subtracting.

yer making it seemly more difficult then it really is.

Time consuming... yes
difficult... not really

albeit: having/using the proper tools makes it less difficult.

If yer not willing to learn how to use the tools you have/need
then all the info I might share with you is probably just moot.

cut out the rails in their rough form...
you can grind them smoother once you have a start.

measure the distance from wheel well OC to wheel well OC
Your shock towers should be near OC to that measurement.
I followed the body lines for my wheel well arches.
But every different body will demand a different approach.

sucks to be a perfectionist... when yer not qualified.

If you screw up the first time...
do it again.
Eventually you'll get it right

trial and error is how I learn chit

using a welder and cut off wheel
fixes any fubar one might do.

If yer not willing to learn new things
and invest into that...

then why the hell did you start that project ??

[SirChirpAlot]

Chris at GCM is a busy guy but he is easy to get in contact with. Did u PM him from here or from GCM racing web page?
Also he do travel to Comps all over so he mights have been away.

[kgb424]

I called GCM and there 21'' chassis is the same as their 17.7'' chassis I already own and built and posted on here

the only difference the 21'' chassis is stretched 4'' to rear, the guy I talked too is the same guy from there video's cause I recognized his voice immediately

and we talked for a little bit, seemed like cool dude for a Canadian "A'' and he wasn't a Hoosier "A"

I tried his suggestion of taking my 17.7'' chassis and hold it up to the Humvee body from underneath and see if lines up

It does not line up, and it only as wide a SCX10 skid plate and chassis and uses a motor forward plate and transfer case, the motor plate was also in the wrong position

So I'm going to use the Wraith skid and its not really wide enough cause the body is 10 1/4 inches wide

I tried to use the GCM SCX10 axle to leaf spring mounts on the Axial AR60 axles and the off set of pumpkin, on the short side needs to trimmed/sanded and was not going start shaving down the axle housing

Too make the mount work, cause is it not made for the AR60 axles, and the pumpkin is in the wrong place. maybe a center pumpkin axle with the right length tubes, so the axle was centered

not one side longer then other when I tried to mock up the Wraith axles with the leaf springs onto the 17.7'' chassis, by doing that I answered a lot of questions

GCM is making a new Chassis to replace the 17.7'' and 21'' 4 Ten Chassis

With a more adjustability but its still not wide enough and you can not use the Wraith axle with springs

the axle offset will work four linked with the Wraith Skid plate

[kgb424]

Taco

I got tools, power tools and air tools, I inherited most of most when my Dad passed

I bought fresh jigsaw blades so I could the jigsaw with the plate clamped with a straight edge

So I could guide the saw straight and make clean cuts

Instead of a air cut off wheel that's hard to keep straight or leave in one spot too long and remove to much material

The jigsaw and with a straight edge should work, a band saw would be the even better

Or a water jet table, in a machine shop

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by kgb424

Taco

I got tools, power tools and air tools, I inherited most of most when my Dad passed

I bought fresh jigsaw blades so I could the jigsaw with the plate clamped with a straight edge

So I could guide the saw straight and make clean cuts

Instead of a air cut off wheel that's hard to keep straight or leave in one spot too long and remove to much material

The jigsaw and with a straight edge should work, a band saw would be the even better

Or a water jet table, in a machine shop

the jigsaw table with a quality metal blade should get it done.

Tho' that welder you have laying around doing nothing...
is the best tool you'll never use.
Tho' I gotta say my 4.5" cut off tool is 2nd best to my welder

Straight lines are obtainable if ya have good eyes and a steady hand.
And take your time cutting slow.
But if ya don't play with it well...
could be the most dangerous tool one might own.

So rough cutting the frame rails out with the jigsaw table
should net a decent finish cut.

After getting those rails cut/mirrored to each other...
Find a method to sandwich those together (mirrored) and fine sand them further
to ensure they are close to each other.
Now is the time to drill all the holes too...
so the cross member's will align properly with each other. ( if utilizing bolt up horizontal cross members )
But my cross members are simply welded in place.

I temporarily spot welded my rails together,
drilled out the holes and cut 'dem apart whence done.
But I suppose they could be bolted together as well.
^ just more interference when held in a vise during further finish work.

The Cut off wheel can also utilize a sanding (flap) disc to clean and smooth the frame rail edges...
to remove the edge sharpness of the original cutting.

Harbor Freight sells a cut off wheel package that is a kit
and includes several cut-off's, grinding, and assorted flap disc's of various grades.

Much of HF's chinese junk... is just that...
but their 4.5" cut-off disc kits work.
And they sell inexpensive Cut-Off tools as well.
Will it last a lifetime ? ummm no
But it will get several jobs done be for it's demise.

@ $ 15. purchase cost (tool)... who cares if it lasts a year.
The cut/grind/sanding wheel kits are probably around $ 10.
But the later are consumables and wear out when used.

If yer anal about it...
you could pony up for their extended warranty.
And they just replace the dead one with new.

But I don't bother and instead...
Just buy two... in case one fails in the middle of my project.

You got this... you're just over thinking things at the moment.

[kgb424]

Yeah Baby I bid on and won

and I shall call him Mini Me Humvee

A 1:18 scale Humvee that is 10.5'' long and 5'' wide

That could fit in the bed Of the 1:6 scale Humvee

Mini Me Humvee could fit on my 1/18 Exceed chassis

You'll see when I get the little Humvee

I could have a Humvee driving a Humvee driving a Humvee if I could find a 1/64 scale Humvee and put it in the 1:18 scale one

I found Mini Mini Me Humvee, it was sold but now I know they are some out there

[TacoCrawler]

there ! enjoy the crappy paint effort

way to make another project for yourself...
when you haven't even finished the 1st one

good gravy what's gone wrong with people

[kgb424]

People Don't understand my

Specific Kind Of Crazy but

They do admire my total

Commitment too it

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by kgb424

People Don't understand my

Specific Kind Of Crazy but

They do admire my total

Commitment too it

Lol

Specific Kind of Crazy ?

is that the same thing as partial insanity ? Lol

I do like those leaf sprung axles you assembled...
But it sure seems odd you'd think of using them
when you tell me that slow mo is not your game !?

You'll probably just bend those leaf springs to chit anyways

So you can mail them to me
when you've become bored from looking at them

Are the frame rails cut out yet ?













how 'bout now ?















maybe now ?














someday ?














get busy dagnabitt

[kgb424]

I don't know Karate or Kung Fu

But I do know Crazy

And have opened a can Whup Ass

From time to time

So I guess I need to get serious with the Chassis

Cause Taco is getting his Fruit of the Looms in a bunch

and they keep ride up and we all know shit

rolls down hill

[Mike Flea]

Wait... now I'm confused, I thought you were using the exo chassis for a more scale Hummer? For the IFS and IRS.

H2's and H3's have a solid rear axle on leafs because they use the S-10 chassis.

[ScalerLover]

Someone say IFS/IRS Hummer ?

[kgb424]

I said **** it and started the Chassis Rails

I still could not figure out the shock loops

The ****ing Jigsaw cut about 1 1/2'' and it stopped and the motor jammed

and before I could unplug it went up in smoke and got really hot really fast and almost burned my hand

I did get one rail cut out and it is way wider than it needs to be

so I got a lot grinding to do to get even close to 1/2''

I used 3'' cut off wheel air tool and a hatch saw and the hack saw blade with no handle

I got one cut out

[kgb424]

Scalerlover

I was going to use my EXO chassis but it would not have the same Crawl-ability or travel with AR60 axles four linked

plus none of my 2.2'' bead locks that I already own would not rub on the hubs in the front and hub carriers in the rear

that's why the EXO uses 2.2''/ 3.0'' rims and tires to clear the hubs and hub carriers and they are short course which is not a lot of room for foams cause of the narrow side walls on the tires

It would not be worth cutting my EXO or buying a second one to cut up