New SSD SCX10 axle housings

[XSRCdesign]

Originally Posted by caleb.cole

Are you going to come out with a fixed version then?

Pretty sure he said multiple times now they are updating the tooling

[Jeepy84]

Without starting from scratch. Tooling is expensive.

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[JohnnyAnguish]

Originally Posted by Capwn

So, If you plan on just driving your truck in a straight line. Tape will work great.

If you actually plan on going hard, Comping, Doing real driving, Think about other ideas...

This was with moderate trail driving and one pretty intensive trip to my local crawler course with a trigger happy 7-year-old. No where have I represented it as anything else. That's why I said to take the info for what it's worth.

Also, I didn't realize I was fake driving. Thanks for setting me straight.

Originally Posted by Capwn

People need to quit trying to sweep this issue under the rug like its nbd.. Thats exactly how companies get away with crap..

I'm not sure how I'm sweeping things under the rug. I was the one who posted the video that clearly demonstrates the issue. Since I (and a whole bunch of other people) had already purchased the housings, I thought I'd share my experience with the suggested work around in the event it may prolong the gear life for someone in a similar situation. If my gears grenade on the next run I'll be sure to post that, too.

I'm not trying to help them get away with anything. Working with what you've got is a completely separate issue from addressing the issue with new tooling. In fact, I was planning on getting the SSD CMS and knuckles, but this experience is making me consider other options. Now that I know I've been fake driving, I can avoid that difficult decision and get out of the hobby all together. My wallet thanks you.

Originally Posted by Capwn

Also, if thats the rear you are trying to show off. you are cheating..
The rear doesn't see NEARLY as much stress as the front..

Try turning your steering past 70*, See what I'm talking about.

"Cheating" implies I have something to gain from misrepresentation. That's certainly not the case. Yes, that's a picture of the rear axle. Why? I don't know. Maybe because it happens to be the one I took a picture of? Sneaky on my part, I know. Both axles were in the same condition.

No, i don't have 70* of steering and I don't comp all the time. I should be ashamed. You obviously win at toy trucks.

[Capwn]

Originally Posted by JohnnyAnguish

No, i don't have 70* of steering and I don't comp all the time. I should be ashamed. You obviously win at toy trucks.

Well you saying you are the one that posted a video ( which I thanked you for , you probably skimmed over that ) I was the FIRST person to post on the issue.. Go back and look, I can wait..


In that same post I also said that foil, and tape , etc were only temp fixes, and not good for long term HARD driving..


On the winning part, The truck that had issue after issue with SSD D60s , Thats now running SSD diamond on both front and rear..

[JohnnyAnguish]

Originally Posted by Capwn

Well you saying you are the one that posted a video ( which I thanked you for , you probably skimmed over that )

Didn't skim. Well aware.

Originally Posted by Capwn

I was the FIRST person to post on the issue.. Go back and look, I can wait..

How is this relevant? I don't remember anyone questioning it.

Originally Posted by Capwn

In that same post I also said that foil, and tape , etc were only temp fixes, and not good for long term HARD driving..

Great! Thanks for sharing your experience. Now don't be so dismissive when someone else does the same.

Originally Posted by Capwn

On the winning part, The truck that had issue after issue with SSD D60s , Thats now running SSD diamond on both front and rear..

Nice toy truck.

[2JSC]

Originally Posted by SSD

It's in progress. It takes time to update tooling, test samples, and make new production.

When these were made nobody was complaining about needing larger bearings in the SCX10 axle otherwise we would have.

I don't think Axial intended or even saw people running big 3s Brushless setups either. If people want to run power, they need the drive train and the SCX/AX axles have their limits.

[dpcardoza]

This thread his gotten incredibly hostile


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[XSRCdesign]

Originally Posted by dpcardoza

This thread his gotten incredibly hostile


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Welcome to the internet..

Basically

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by dpcardoza

This thread his gotten incredibly hostile


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Agreed! It's a pity. I think the RC hobby, like everything else, is an ever developing thing and nothing is perfect. Not even the SSD axle housings. But I am generally very happy with my SSD purchases. When the axle housing is driven to destruction, try another brand next time if you are not happy with it.

That being said, I can understand that some people feel let down.. but hey.. if I was that concerned about my money's worth, I probably wouldn't be in this hobby in the first place

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[JohnnyAnguish]

Originally Posted by dpcardoza

This thread his gotten incredibly hostile


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My bad.

Let me just reiterate, so it's not lost, that different people enjoy the hobby in different ways. If you enjoy trail driving and already own these great looking axles and want to run them, the aluminum tape work around may be worth trying to extend the life of your gears. Time will tell.

If your primary involvement in the hobby is comping, you may want to go back to try a different axle housing.

Either way, I think we're all looking forward to a revised housing.

[dpcardoza]

Originally Posted by JohnnyAnguish

My bad.



Let me just reiterate, so it's not lost, that different people enjoy the hobby in different ways. If you enjoy trail driving and already own these great looking axles and want to run them, the aluminum tape work around may be worth trying to extend the life of your gears. Time will tell.



If your primary involvement in the hobby is comping, you may want to go back to try a different axle housing.



Either way, I think we're all looking forward to a revised housing.

Well said. Love my ssd axles but I fall into the former category. I'm not excusing what has obviously been documented as a huge flaw. With that being said. I'm not sure these axles are a great choice for hardcore comping anyways.


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[Jeepy84]

Originally Posted by dpcardoza

Well said. Love my ssd axles but I fall into the former category. I'm not excusing what has obviously been documented as a huge flaw. With that being said. I'm not sure these axles are a great choice for hardcore comping anyways.


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Agreed. I see these and think scale. Run OGs with tubes and XR mod or Stage 1, or some other comp designed axles for comp.

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[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by Jeepy84

Agreed. I see these and think scale. Run OGs with tubes and XR mod or Stage 1, or some other comp designed axles for comp.

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I'm a newbie to this and I wonder about the ssd aluminum diamond axles - are they good for comp or hard bashing or mostly scale?

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[BadWagon]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

I'm a newbie to this and I wonder about the ssd aluminum diamond axles - are they good for comp or hard bashing or mostly scale?

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All three

[rckjeep]

I've been working on my Deadbolt that is currently running SSD D60 housings. I haven't run them hard or that much and both front and rear have slop in the pinion bearing bore. Guess I'm going back to stock housings. I'll keep an eye out for solutions.

[tjohanne]

Originally Posted by rckjeep

I've been working on my Deadbolt that is currently running SSD D60 housings. I haven't run them hard or that much and both front and rear have slop in the pinion bearing bore. Guess I'm going back to stock housings. I'll keep an eye out for solutions.

Yeah, I think we kinda know that already. I have six axle housings, the outer bearing is too small for the provided space. We all know that by now..

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[Capwn]

My only remaining question is what compensation will be made for people that were affected by the defect..

Discount code? Trade in program? Something .. Hundreds of $$ in gears I have sitting in a box stripped because of this issue.

[Jeepy84]

I have two of these axles sitting in the bags cause I came across these posts before building them, so I'm kind of just tossing it out there... Would a larger OD bearing fix the issue? I know they were supposed to reuse stock hardware, but does SSD need to reinvent the wheel here?

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[Di_Spencer]

Originally Posted by Jeepy84

I have two of these axles sitting in the bags cause I came across these posts before building them, so I'm kind of just tossing it out there... Would a larger OD bearing fix the issue? I know they were supposed to reuse stock hardware, but does SSD need to reinvent the wheel here?

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I believe this was discussed earlier in the thread but a standard size bearing wouldn't fit because the opening is slightly too big for a stock one but still to small for the next larger size.

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[Jeepy84]

Originally Posted by Di_Spencer

I believe this was discussed earlier in the thread but a standard size bearing wouldn't fit because the opening is slightly too big for a stock one but still to small for the next larger size.

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Ah, ok, I missed that then, thanks for the clarification.

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