Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Obama's solution to end gun violence...

[JeremyH]

1. Require criminal background checks for all gun sales. (a.k.a. closing the "gun show loophole.")

I wonder if this will be required of individual to individual sales? If so, how is an individual supposed to perform this check?

Originally Posted by The DC

You got a spare couch till we can get settled?

Yep, it's about 7 hours north of here.........in Oklahoma.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Other than the proposal to reinstate the assault weapons ban and the ammo limit, does anyone take issue with what has been proposed?

Should I assume that everyone's silence means "no"?

[CREEPERBOB]

I've brought this subject up to more people than I can remember, all wanna do something but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and the excuses start. I've brought it up on here a hundred times as well, that WE the people are the goverments employer.
People make a statment when they want to secede, or want there birth control paid for but when something that really infringes on us as a people comes along there seems to be no back bone to stand up, I guess it takes to much time or something.
Not too sound like a smart ass (or dumb ass), but how would ya go about starting a petition for something?
Hell, there are enough folks just on this forum that each of them in there own state should be able to raise a rukus on any particular issue they may feel the need for.

Originally Posted by 93 FORD BRONCO

instead of complaining about how we arent doing anything, why dont you get out there and organize something. ill join..

[Sh0rtBus]

Originally Posted by crawler nut

We're in CA. Not sure about filling out a form, but she wouldn't stop prying to try to find out. Even going as far as asking if all of them were registered. I personally don't think it is any of the hospitals business how many guns or how much ammo I keep around. I reload my own for dirt cheap so I have a ton for all of my guns. But why are they asking these questions?

Big brother has to have his nose in everything.

[Frankenwheely]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Maybe he changed his mind. Nothing wrong with that.

Other than the proposal to reinstate the assault weapons ban and the ammo limit, does anyone take issue with what has been proposed?

Here in Cali, we already went through the assault ban many years ago, then they forgot to renew it and here we are again. Plus we already have a 10 round limit. I was just thinking about heading over to AZ to pick up some 20-30 round clips before they are gone.

[GySgt Hartman]

Originally Posted by JeremyH

I wonder if this will be required of individual to individual sales?

I would assume so...

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Other than the proposal to reinstate the assault weapons ban and the ammo limit, does anyone take issue with what has been proposed?

The background checks for individual to individual provate sales. Once again the powers that be are proposing regulations on an activity there is no possible way of monitoring or enforcing.

[CREEPERBOB]

#16 is , well weird

[CREEPERBOB]

There gone .

Originally Posted by Frankenwheely

Here in Cali, we already went through the assault ban many years ago, then they forgot to renew it and here we are again. Plus we already have a 10 round limit. I was just thinking about heading over to AZ to pick up some 20-30 round clips before they are gone.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by GySgt Hartman

The background checks for individual to individual provate sales. Once again the powers that be are proposing regulations on an activity there is no possible way of monitoring or enforcing.

The only way they could do that would be to hold the known owner of a registered weapon accountable for any wrongdoing that that weapon may be a part of. That would force registered gun owners and their prospective buyers to make that transaction through a third party so that it is on record.

Other than the increased hassle, I see no problem with that. It would, in effect, protect the seller.

But that still leaves the unregistered weapons free to exchange hands with no regulation.

[JeremyH]

Originally Posted by GySgt Hartman

I would assume so...

Now I'm just interested in selling stuff so I can stick my nose in other people's business....

[Die-Laughing]

Did he do the speech? No gun or mag ban?

[GySgt Hartman]

Originally Posted by Die-Laughing

Did he do the speech? No gun or mag ban?

Really...?

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Maybe he changed his mind. Nothing wrong with that.

Other than the proposal to reinstate the assault weapons ban and the ammo limit, does anyone take issue with what has been proposed?

on executive orderes I have a few that give me pause
2,4,8,15,17,18

on the congress side, I dont like 5

mostly I dont like these cuz its unclear how extensive, or reaching these may be, or made clear
what means and methodes will be used to implement.

like #2, it says removing certain legal barriers..what barriers?
maybe people likek that barrier, we dontn know cuz its not specific

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by rock hard

on executive orderes I have a few that give me pause
2,4,8,15,17,18

on the congress side, I dont like 5

mostly I dont like these cuz its unclear how extensive, or reaching these may be, or made clear
what means and methodes will be used to implement.

like #2, it says removing certain legal barriers..what barriers?
maybe people likek that barrier, we dontn know cuz its not specific

The specifics come later, these are merely points to focus legislature on.

[dunerinaz]

Originally Posted by CREEPERBOB

There gone .

Damn right, lol.

And this is why I always bought a mag for the AR when I found a good deal. Now there are no good deals.

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

The specifics come later, these are merely points to focus legislature on.

Only one I dint like for sure I guess is the doctor part..
I honestly dont think it wil help, I think it will be a cloud.
Some may cosider the ramafications of being 100% forth coming while in session..Some may decide not to seek treatment in the 1st place for the
lack of privacy.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by rock hard

Only one I dint like for sure I guess is the doctor part..
I honestly dont think it wil help, I think it will be a cloud.
Some may cosider the ramafications of being 100% forth coming while in session..Some may decide not to seek treatment in the 1st place for the
lack of privacy.

People not seeking help is a concern, but there is no way around that other than hoping that someone in their family raises that red flag. But frankly, regardless of what the constitution says, if a person is clinically not right in the head they should not be armed. No sane person has ever gone on a shooting spree, or committed suicide, or stabbed and killed their family.

We have to either make it harder for everyone to get weapons, or make it harder for those who should not have them.

[dezfan]

Number 2.

Would casue issues with patient confidentially.

Number 16.

It's none of the governments business, much less my medical providers how many fire arms I own or how much ammo I keep on hand for those fire arms.

[Deerhurst]

Another county, Crook county, in Oregon sent in a letter stating he will refuse to enforce any federal firearms law he finds unconstitutional.

[SINister]

It wasn't too bad. Could have been worse for sure. Some of it is questionable but in the end I think mostly it will end up being better background checks and having to go through a 3rd party for private sales. The gun industry won't miss pen hookers anyway. They may still go for a ban on scary guns and hicaps but it won't pass congress.