I'm building a Berg.

[KBrog]

Getting ready to start a Berg build. In the need of new axle tubes. It's my understanding that CCC tubes will not work with stock cases. I know of Dlux, and RCBros tubes. What are the pros and cons of each. The axles I have use super 300's for AX10 knuckles. Can I use those 300's with Wraith C's and knuckles?

[ROWDY RACING]

Originally Posted by KBrog

Anyone have a link to the search button?

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Karl, yes that is correct. Dlux has been making delrin tubes for stock cases for years and I am sure that they would work for you. I think the Rcbros ones are designed with Wraith knuckles in mind and take some mods to make work. The tubes I sell are designed with Wraith knuckles in mind as well and only a few custom sized ones for AX10 were made. The Super 300s were designed to fit Berg or AX10 knuckles and will not fit Wraith knuckles. With the Super 300s you are limited to 50 degrees of steering and modded stock tubes or custom delrin tubes from Rcbros or Dlux. After XRs had all the steering.... The Berg guys had to find out how to make a Berg steer like an XR. It kinda has been coined the "Wraith Mod" by some. The Berg platform has been continually changing and adjusting to what parts are available and work well together. I hope this helps you understand and saves you some searching time.

[KBrog]

Originally Posted by ROWDY RACING

Yeah yeah yeah, you got me back

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Check out these..... They will work with the axles you have.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=502488

[KBrog]

Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms

Karl, yes that is correct. Dlux has been making delrin tubes for stock cases for years and I am sure that they would work for you. I think the Rcbros ones are designed with Wraith knuckles in mind and take some mods to make work. The tubes I sell are designed with Wraith knuckles in mind as well and only a few custom sized ones for AX10 were made. The Super 300s were designed to fit Berg or AX10 knuckles and will not fit Wraith knuckles. With the Super 300s you are limited to 50 degrees of steering and modded stock tubes or custom delrin tubes from Rcbros or Dlux. After XRs had all the steering.... The Berg guys had to find out how to make a Berg steer like an XR. It kinda has been coined the "Wraith Mod" by some. The Berg platform has been continually changing and adjusting to what parts are available and work well together. I hope this helps you understand and saves you some searching time.

Sounds like the Dlux may be my only option with the parts I already have. Those RCBros sure are shiny though.

[KBrog]

Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms

Karl, yes that is correct. Dlux has been making delrin tubes for stock cases for years and I am sure that they would work for you. I think the Rcbros ones are designed with Wraith knuckles in mind and take some mods to make work. The tubes I sell are designed with Wraith knuckles in mind as well and only a few custom sized ones for AX10 were made. The Super 300s were designed to fit Berg or AX10 knuckles and will not fit Wraith knuckles. With the Super 300s you are limited to 50 degrees of steering and modded stock tubes or custom delrin tubes from Rcbros or Dlux. After XRs had all the steering.... The Berg guys had to find out how to make a Berg steer like an XR. It kinda has been coined the "Wraith Mod" by some. The Berg platform has been continually changing and adjusting to what parts are available and work well together. I hope this helps you understand and saves you some searching time.

Sounds like the Dlux may be my only option with the parts I already have. Those RCBros sure are shiny though.

[ROWDY RACING]

Originally Posted by KBrog

Sounds like the Dlux may be my only option with the parts I already have. Those RCBros sure are shiny though.

Originally Posted by KBrog

Sounds like the Dlux may be my only option with the parts I already have. Those RCBros sure are shiny though.

You can say that again.

[KBrog]

Originally Posted by ROWDY RACING

You can say that again.

Lol. Barbarian hands and a little phone.

[RcBro]

Our tubes can be used with either style knuckle.

If you plan to use the AX10 Chubs and Knuckles a quick how-to can be found here:
How to install: RcBros light weight 7075 tubes!!

a Majority of the guys are still running the orginal 300 CVD's. Being your first berg they will be a great addtion to your rig. The HD's or similar require alot of tuning to get maximum use from the amount of steering a rig can have. Sometimes this results in negative driving results due to being new to the platform and not familiar with adjustments.

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Originally Posted by ROWDY RACING

Karl..... I was just trying to explain the options for you. Apparently others are not so helpful.

[ROWDY RACING]

Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms

Karl..... I was just trying to explain the options for you. Apparently others are not so helpful.

We are good friends, we give each other a hard time, all in fun, chill out fella.

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Originally Posted by ROWDY RACING

We are good friends, we give each other a hard time, all in fun, chill out fella.

Chris..... I know you are...... And I know what you are just joking...... But you don't know how the general public may view these comments.

[KBrog]

Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms

Karl..... I was just trying to explain the options for you. Apparently others are not so helpful.

Yep, I know. You and everyone I have talked to about this build have been great at helping a Berg noob. Rowdy was just paying me back for all the crap I send his way. he got me. I had already forgotten about that search comment.

[SkaldidDog]

Sweet! Another Berg...and Rowdy entertainment.

J

[ClassiCutCustoms]

Originally Posted by SkaldidDog

Sweet! Another Berg...and Rowdy entertainment.

J

Joel..... Same old story.... Different chapter.... Grab some popcorn!

[ROWDY RACING]

Originally Posted by ClassiCutCustoms

Chris..... I know you are...... And I know what you are just joking...... But you don't know how the general public may view these comments.

Nah, they are smarter than most give them credit for.

Set them up to run as is Karl and upgrade as time and $ allows, comp in 2 weeks git er did!

[KBrog]

Originally Posted by RcBro

Our tubes can be used with either style knuckle.

If you plan to use the AX10 Chubs and Knuckles a quick how-to can be found here:
How to install: RcBros light weight 7075 tubes!!

a Majority of the guys are still running the orginal 300 CVD's. Being your first berg they will be a great addtion to your rig. The HD's or similar require alot of tuning to get maximum use from the amount of steering a rig can have. Sometimes this results in negative driving results due to being new to the platform and not familiar with adjustments.

Very cool info. That almost makes up my mind.

[SkaldidDog]

His multi-chapter book of entertainment is always classy yet on the edge...kinda like finding a nice leather-bound hardback in the adult section.

J

[KBrog]

I also have RC Axle Master rear shafts. Is there any certain tube I need for those or will any of the above work?