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Bart bender · 11-25-2010, 08:04 AM

Do you know who makes it or is it a CEN product?

The CEN lock is a GS013

spyderwebbcustoms · 11-25-2010, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart bender

Do you know who makes it or is it a CEN product?

cen makes them, don't know what part # buddy had them on his table in his shop. will try to find the part number

dezrik · 02-26-2011, 11:05 AM

Didn't See a List of whats needed to build a set of axles but here it is, May need to be double checked in case of errors. for the Differential Part lists I went off a Inferno, I Couldn't find a Mad force diff breakdown list.

Knuckles:
-IF7 knuckle bushings
-BS76 Stock Hub

Axles Housings:
-MA004F Front Hub Carrier
-MA004R Rear Hub Carrier
-MA002 Differential Housing

Inner Axle:
-MA024 Long Side Axle shaft
-BS45 Short Side Axle Shaft
-BS75 Stub Axle

Differential:
-BS53 Diff Shim Kit
-IF21 Pinion Shim Kit
-MA050 Ring and Pinion Helicut gear
-IF101 Diff cup Shafts with shims
-IF39 Differential Shafts
-ORG06 Silicone O-Ring (15pc)
-IF102 Diff Bevel Gears.
-IF103 Diff Case with gasket
-BS007 Bevel Shaft (6pc)

Wheel Hex:
MT006 Wheel Hex
BS52 Stub pin

Not Need but Its a good start for custom 4link brackets
-MA003 Suspension ARM SET (2pc)

Bearings Needed:

8x16x5mm (8 per axle (2 for each hub, 2 for pinion 2 for diff.))

dezrik · 02-26-2011, 06:28 PM

Did some Digging today and Found a thread that said (with pictures) These CVA's Will bolt right in. Ill order to confirm.

All HPI Racing Hellfire part numbers:
87235 Rebuild Kit Universal Dogbone Hellfire
86504 Axle 8x11x36mm Hellfire Stub Axles
86567 Long Axle Side
86566 Short Axle Side

Post #40 here -> http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...t=87795&page=4
and Post #55 Pics here -> http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...t=85659&page=6

mjderstine · 03-01-2011, 11:05 AM

thats a great find. i am gonna start putting that together in the next couple weeks.

ThinkTank · 03-09-2011, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezrik

Didn't See a List of whats needed to build a set of axles but here it is, May need to be double checked in case of errors. for the Differential Part lists I went off a Inferno, I Couldn't find a Mad force diff breakdown list.)

Thanks for the list, just what I needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart bender

Do you know who makes it or is it a CEN product?

http://www.cenracingdirect.com/index...ROD&ProdID=275

http://www.cenracingdirect.com/index...OD&ProdID=3071

ThinkTank · 03-09-2011, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart bender

The IFW 421-01 is just the shaft. Also the IFW422-01. Do you no the dimensions of these complete?

IFW421-01

IFW421

IFW422-01

IFW422

IFW421 is 84mm.

IFW422 is 110mm.

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...umb=on&smode=0

v84x4 · 03-09-2011, 10:25 PM

MACHINED BULLETPROOF DIFF BEVEL GEAR 29T/9T SET

Has anyone tried any of the gears for the "SAVAGE FLUX"
to know if their a "drop in" replacement?

If not I will confirm on Saturday when I go to "Larry's RC's

Regards V8

MadForce · 03-10-2011, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThinkTank

IFW421 is 84mm.

IFW422 is 110mm.

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...umb=on&smode=0

421 with the MP9 stub axle is a drop in replacement for the short side.
422 falls about 3mm short for the long side.
I'll have to disassemble to take more accurate measurements.

mjderstine · 03-10-2011, 09:33 AM

not sure about these. but they are beef!

Quote:

Originally Posted by v84x4

MACHINED BULLETPROOF DIFF BEVEL GEAR 29T/9T SET

Has anyone tried any of the gears for the "SAVAGE FLUX"
to know if their a "drop in" replacement?

If not I will confirm on Saturday when I go to "Larry's RC's

Regards V8

mjderstine · 03-11-2011, 10:21 AM

if any of you guys need the manaul PM me with your email address.

v84x4 · 03-11-2011, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v84x4

MACHINED BULLETPROOF DIFF BEVEL GEAR 29T/9T SET

Has anyone tried any of the gears for the "SAVAGE FLUX"
to know if their a "drop in" replacement?

If not I will confirm on Saturday when I go to "Larry's RC's

Regards V8

Nope..........

Wont work......

Savage gears are to big.......

Darn

V8

Meatwad · 03-11-2011, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v84x4

Nope..........

Wont work......

Savage gears are to big.......

Darn

V8

How about the pre-bp diffs from the savage nitro?(43/13)

Edit: Just looked on the front page and a kyosho straight tooth version of 43/13 is listed as fitting, but how bout the hpi? I've got a few savage parts layin around.

Thanks for any info guys, I'm just seeing the light and thy name is mad/twin force axle

v84x4 · 03-12-2011, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatwad

Thanks for any info guys, I'm just seeing the light and thy name is mad/twin force axle

Welcome to the club.....

Regards V8

Bart bender · 03-13-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatwad

How about the pre-bp diffs from the savage nitro?(43/13)

Edit: Just looked on the front page and a kyosho straight tooth version of 43/13 is listed as fitting, but how bout the hpi? I've got a few savage parts layin around.

Thanks for any info guys, I'm just seeing the light and thy name is mad/twin force axle

Well, I guess the only thing to do is try them out. If you got'em laying around than order some housings and give them a whirl

And yes welcome to the sickness. Start a tech thread too. Let us know how they work

Meatwad · 03-14-2011, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v84x4

Welcome to the club.....

Regards V8

...or the addiction Hehe thx man

Meatwad · 03-14-2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart bender

Well, I guess the only thing to do is try them out. If you got'em laying around than order some housings and give them a whirl

And yes welcome to the sickness. Start a tech thread too. Let us know how they work

Looks like i will. Although getting my hands on some ma002 axle halves is proving difficult. Rcp is out, amain is out so I've got my lhs on the case trying to get ahold of a kyosho rep. Ah well in due time

Bart bender · 03-14-2011, 09:22 AM

When they run out it's usually a while before they get restock. Kyosho isn't known for their promptness. Hunt around for a used rig. They're out there.

mjderstine · 03-27-2011, 03:50 PM

hey guys, i am planning to get a set of these, however, i need it to be for 6mm outputs on one end.

any ideas how i could do that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart bender

Creep, you may have just made my day with these shafts. Do you have any pics of the shafts apart and maybe some measurements, total assembled calapsed and fully extended. These will cure the Moly pinion delema some people are having. Can't drill them for Revo shafts they're too hard.

GS043

GS040

Also looks like there are a lot of usable parts from that truck GS/GSS
I can confirm the GS013 Lock Block works. Thanks Creep

Bart bender · 03-27-2011, 05:44 PM

Just for your information. Those shafts have minimal mis-alignment. If you have a flexy rig they won't have enough.

11-25-2010, 08:04 AM	#161
Bart bender I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa, the antirecreation state! Posts: 2,227	Do you know who makes it or is it a CEN product? The CEN lock is a GS013 Last edited by Bart bender; 03-28-2011 at 01:52 PM.

03-09-2011, 10:25 PM	#168
v84x4 Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Keego Harbor, MI. Posts: 951	MACHINED BULLETPROOF DIFF BEVEL GEAR 29T/9T SET Has anyone tried any of the gears for the "SAVAGE FLUX" to know if their a "drop in" replacement? If not I will confirm on Saturday when I go to "Larry's RC's Regards V8 Last edited by v84x4; 03-09-2011 at 10:28 PM.

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02-26-2011, 11:05 AM	#163
dezrik Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pinedale, WY Posts: 873	Didn't See a List of whats needed to build a set of axles but here it is, May need to be double checked in case of errors. for the Differential Part lists I went off a Inferno, I Couldn't find a Mad force diff breakdown list. Knuckles: -IF7 knuckle bushings -BS76 Stock Hub Axles Housings: -MA004F Front Hub Carrier -MA004R Rear Hub Carrier -MA002 Differential Housing Inner Axle: -MA024 Long Side Axle shaft -BS45 Short Side Axle Shaft -BS75 Stub Axle Differential: -BS53 Diff Shim Kit -IF21 Pinion Shim Kit -MA050 Ring and Pinion Helicut gear -IF101 Diff cup Shafts with shims -IF39 Differential Shafts -ORG06 Silicone O-Ring (15pc) -IF102 Diff Bevel Gears. -IF103 Diff Case with gasket -BS007 Bevel Shaft (6pc) Wheel Hex: MT006 Wheel Hex BS52 Stub pin Not Need but Its a good start for custom 4link brackets -MA003 Suspension ARM SET (2pc) Bearings Needed: 8x16x5mm (8 per axle (2 for each hub, 2 for pinion 2 for diff.))

02-26-2011, 06:28 PM	#164
dezrik Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pinedale, WY Posts: 873	Did some Digging today and Found a thread that said (with pictures) These CVA's Will bolt right in. Ill order to confirm. All HPI Racing Hellfire part numbers: 87235 Rebuild Kit Universal Dogbone Hellfire 86504 Axle 8x11x36mm Hellfire Stub Axles 86567 Long Axle Side 86566 Short Axle Side Post #40 here -> http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...t=87795&page=4 and Post #55 Pics here -> http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...t=85659&page=6

03-01-2011, 11:05 AM	#165
mjderstine SuperShafty.com Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Visalia CA Posts: 2,902	thats a great find. i am gonna start putting that together in the next couple weeks.

03-11-2011, 10:21 AM	#171
mjderstine SuperShafty.com Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Visalia CA Posts: 2,902	if any of you guys need the manaul PM me with your email address.

03-14-2011, 09:22 AM	#178
Bart bender I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa, the antirecreation state! Posts: 2,227	When they run out it's usually a while before they get restock. Kyosho isn't known for their promptness. Hunt around for a used rig. They're out there.

03-27-2011, 05:44 PM	#180
Bart bender I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa, the antirecreation state! Posts: 2,227	Just for your information. Those shafts have minimal mis-alignment. If you have a flexy rig they won't have enough.

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