SORRCA Competition Rules Release - Class Specs and scale points

[justinart24]

Originally Posted by Locked Up

We are working on answers to the "parts in the bed" and "beat beyond recognition" fenders.

Would this trucks fenders be legal in C2? BTW, thanks!
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If thats not legal, could I make it legal if I add a tube fender?

[Craig cw]

Hey Justin,
I'm not on the rules commitie,but from what I understand,that rig would be elligal.In my opinion that is a perfect example of a rig that should fit in this class.
I don't really understand the point of this rule in this class myself.

[hotwheels000]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

I just realized you help make the rules. Did you miss a few days or something.

Nope involved in every bit of the slapping behind closed doors....Search u-tube, you will see

[hotwheels000]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

So then I could have 2 full fenders in the back of the truck and be good.
I could smash both fenders that are 100% to nothing and be good.

Now you are deserving of the SLAP

[Locked Up]

Justin, looks like more than 50% gone.

A replacement fender would get you there IMO.



I'm not judging anymore individual rigs in here.
The purpose is to clear up rules applications, not answer specific rig questions.




We know some of you don't love everything but at the end of the day the lines drawn were necessary to keep the overall feel of the class where the majority of the group wanted it.


Although it may seem like we are not paying attention to some peoples concerns... things are being noted for next year.

[justinart24]

Originally Posted by Locked Up

Justin, looks like more than 50% gone.

A replacement fender would get you there IMO.

I'm not judging anymore individual rigs in here.

The purpose is to clear up rules applications, not answer specific rig questions.

We know some of you don't love everything but at the end of the day the lines drawn were necessary to keep the overall feel of the class where the majority of the group wanted it.

Although it may seem like we are not paying attention to some peoples concerns... things are being noted for next year.

Sorry if it sounded like I was being negative, not my intention. After getting some feedback from you about the fender rules, I decided not to build my "inner fender Tundra Truggy C2 rig". But am thinking of building FJ40 Truggy with tube fenders like the one in the pic.

Sorry to ask about individual rigs, its understandable, don't want to be judging hundreds of rigs a day. BTW, thanks again for taking the time to answer my question, I hope it to be the last.

[Locked Up]

Originally Posted by justinart24

Sorry if it sounded like I was being negative, not my intention. After getting some feedback from you about the fender rules, I decided not to build my "inner fender Tundra Truggy C2 rig". But am thinking of building FJ40 Truggy with tube fenders like the one in the pic.

Sorry to ask about individual rigs, its understandable, don't want to be judging hundreds of rigs a day. BTW, thanks again for taking the time to answer my question, I hope it to be the last.

I wasn't directing that to you (or any individual really).

No worries. We are here to help ... I was just telling myself to not do anymore because I don't want to start down that road.



But everyone should PM Tommy R with individual questions .....







Just kidding there folks ...

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

Now you are deserving of the SLAP

[madscrambler]

Thanks for all the long hours you all put into setting up these rules. I just have One question, I may have missed it but I don't see any points for a full tube chassy. I may have missed that part just wondering thanks.

[hotwheels000]

Lance, most of it is right here.Its tough to answer that question with an exact number since there are so many options as to the way you can build it.

If you are refering to the term "TUBER" as we used to know it, it would be points for a interior cage,front cage and rear tube structure.Add slider,integral shockmounts and bumpers to that if it fits the build.

There are lots of options and ways to build the rigs, so the term tuber was eliminated, the options below should allow you to go nuts on the build. Just make sure that it fits the class you are building for,not everything is legal in all classes.

Chassis/Body :
1.1 Tube bed
‐ Tube bed: metal ‐3, plastic ‐1
‐ Bed area 4 point roll bar: metal – 2, plastic ‐1
1.2 Flat bed
‐ Flat bed: metal/wood ‐3, plastic ‐1
‐ Bed mounted headache rack: metal ‐2, plastic ‐1
1.3 Truggy & back halved truck
Truggy/back halved truck: metal ‐7, plastic ‐3
‐Must replace the ladder frame from the rear of the skid to the back of the vehicle. Must have a roll bar
hoop. Must have integrated shock mounts. Must be a structural part of the rear of the vehicle. (If your
bed does not meet ALL of the preceding criteria, it does not count as a truggy bed).
1.4 Drop bed
‐inside of a tube bed/truggy bed ‐2
‐inside of a standard pickup bed ‐3
2.1 Interior cage or exo‐cage (may only choose one)
‐ 3 row cage: metal ‐10, plastic ‐4
‐ 2 row cage: metal ‐8, plastic ‐3
‐ 1 row cage: metal ‐5, plastic ‐2
3.1 Tube accessories
‐ Sliders: (both sides) metal ‐3, plastic ‐1
‐ Tube fenders: ‐1 per pair
‐ Front cage: ‐3
‐ Rear tube structure: metal ‐2, plastic ‐1
‐ Integrated tube shock mounts: ‐1 (per pair)
4.1 Body
‐ Hard body: full‐8, half ‐4
‐ Drop bed : ‐3
‐ Custom built body: (metal or hard plastic, no lexan) full ‐4, half ‐2
‐ Inner fender wells: ‐1 per pair

[jason]

When did a hustler become a tvp?

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

This is a slap statement. Come on, you think you can have 100% on one side and nothing on the other. Thats what 50% of original fenders means to you.

I said that to.

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

So then I could have 2 full fenders in the back of the truck and be good.
I could smash both fenders that are 100% to nothing and be good.

first thing out of my mouth to

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Good ,I could see some guy pulling up with both fenders rolled up on the hood. And saying they are 100%. .

Why have any fender rule for class 2. Just asking, I'm sure that went around.

Mostly tube rigs.. Personally it makes no sense to me..

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by jason

When did a hustler become a tvp?

Its not.. I think it just got lumped in there when being discussed as a well known comp style tube chassis.

I dont have the measurements of one, but they wouldn't meet the minimum specs anyway would they?

[jason]

Don't know offhand, just thought it looked weird grouped with the TVP's

[ecoli]

You're right, it's not a tvp chassis Jason, but an example of a banned comp chassis. Dimensions would be too narrow (5" for C3) and possibly too short in any case.

[STANG KILLA SS]

ive got a question about the tube bed/back half/truggy rule

lets talk tube bed/back half for example.(tube work from the back of cab rearward only)

it says you have to cut off the frame rails from the skid back? how are you going to support the tube work?
in the case of the tundra body, and many others, with a normal 50/50 setup, the skid is in the middle of the cab...

youll have cut away the entire back of the cab to run the tube work forward to the frame rails. having tubes running all threw your interior, seats, floor boards etc.

on a 1:1 if you had to cut the rails after the t-case, youd loose all your rear cab/body mounts. as well as have to run tubes threw your rear window and right threw the center of the cab.

or am i just reading this rule wrong?

if not i think your gonna have to allow a inch or so of rails past the back of the cab, to tie all the tube work to without having to hack threw the back of the cab.

[Locked Up]

Originally Posted by jason

Don't know offhand, just thought it looked weird grouped with the TVP's

Yes. It seems we may have left out a word or two there about "comp" chassis ...

Will have to check into how that is supposed to be worded.

[Locked Up]

Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS

ive got a question about the tube bed/back half/truggy rule

lets talk tube bed/back half for example.(tube work from the back of cab rearward only)

it says you have to cut off the frame rails from the skid back? how are you going to support the tube work?
in the case of the tundra body, and many others, with a normal 50/50 setup, the skid is in the middle of the cab...

youll have cut away the entire back of the cab to run the tube work forward to the frame rails. having tubes running all threw your interior, seats, floor boards etc.

on a 1:1 if you had to cut the rails after the t-case, youd loose all your rear cab/body mounts. as well as have to run tubes threw your rear window and right threw the center of the cab.

or am i just reading this rule wrong?

if not i think your gonna have to allow a inch or so of rails past the back of the cab, to tie all the tube work to without having to hack threw the back of the cab.

Tube bed is defined in the glossary as:

Tube Bed- A chassis mounted tube structure that takes the place of a standard truck bed.

I see nothing about cutting the frame away for a tube bed.


On the Truggy body, the glossary says rear of the skid and back but I think you are correct. That should probably rear the back of the cab and back.
Good find. I'll ask about that.

[madscrambler]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

Lance, most of it is right here.Its tough to answer that question with an exact number since there are so many options as to the way you can build it.

If you are refering to the term "TUBER" as we used to know it, it would be points for a interior cage,front cage and rear tube structure.Add slider,integral shockmounts and bumpers to that if it fits the build.

There are lots of options and ways to build the rigs, so the term tuber was eliminated, the options below should allow you to go nuts on the build. Just make sure that it fits the class you are building for,not everything is legal in all classes.

Chassis/Body :
1.1 Tube bed
‐ Tube bed: metal ‐3, plastic ‐1
‐ Bed area 4 point roll bar: metal – 2, plastic ‐1
1.2 Flat bed
‐ Flat bed: metal/wood ‐3, plastic ‐1
‐ Bed mounted headache rack: metal ‐2, plastic ‐1
1.3 Truggy & back halved truck
Truggy/back halved truck: metal ‐7, plastic ‐3
‐Must replace the ladder frame from the rear of the skid to the back of the vehicle. Must have a roll bar
hoop. Must have integrated shock mounts. Must be a structural part of the rear of the vehicle. (If your
bed does not meet ALL of the preceding criteria, it does not count as a truggy bed).
1.4 Drop bed
‐inside of a tube bed/truggy bed ‐2
‐inside of a standard pickup bed ‐3
2.1 Interior cage or exo‐cage (may only choose one)
‐ 3 row cage: metal ‐10, plastic ‐4
‐ 2 row cage: metal ‐8, plastic ‐3
‐ 1 row cage: metal ‐5, plastic ‐2
3.1 Tube accessories
‐ Sliders: (both sides) metal ‐3, plastic ‐1
‐ Tube fenders: ‐1 per pair
‐ Front cage: ‐3
‐ Rear tube structure: metal ‐2, plastic ‐1
‐ Integrated tube shock mounts: ‐1 (per pair)
4.1 Body
‐ Hard body: full‐8, half ‐4
‐ Drop bed : ‐3
‐ Custom built body: (metal or hard plastic, no lexan) full ‐4, half ‐2
‐ Inner fender wells: ‐1 per pair

Thanks Dev, I will go nuts now still not sure the points. It looks like it will all work out in the end.

[Tommy R]

Originally Posted by Locked Up

On the Truggy body, the glossary says rear of the skid and back but I think you are correct. That should probably rear the back of the cab and back.
Good find. I'll ask about that.

Agreed. I'm sure "back of the cab" was the intent. Stay tuned.