SORCCA rules comments, suggestions, and questions

[BigSki]

Last year, in order to get points for the spare tire mount it had to be frame mounted, even if it was mounted in the bed of a pick up truck. It seems like that has changed for this year so I would just like to clarify that a bed mounted spare tire is ok now for points?

[sloppy]

Originally Posted by BigSki

Last year, in order to get points for the spare tire mount it had to be frame mounted, even if it was mounted in the bed of a pick up truck. It seems like that has changed for this year so I would just like to clarify that a bed mounted spare tire is ok now for points?

Last year it had to be bumper mounted.. Its been totally removed and now you can use the functional scale accs. or non functional either one. it was only 1 pt before so nothing has really changed other then now you can count a bed mounted or body mounted carrier.

Hopefully that helps some of the guys with cool body mount carriers..

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by DISTURBIN' tha PEACE

Huh?

Can or can't?

I said can't.

[BigSki]

Originally Posted by sloppy

Last year it had to be bumper mounted.. Its been totally removed and now you can use the functional scale accs. or non functional either one. it was only 1 pt before so nothing has really changed other then now you can count a bed mounted or body mounted carrier.

Hopefully that helps some of the guys with cool body mount carriers..

Now I can fab another 'pre-runer' style bed mounted spare carrier and get a much needed point.

[rmdesignworks]

Im in the process of trying to get a C3 tube chassis built but have a question regarding width for clarification. If the chassis itself isnt 5 inches wide at the door area but the chassis has Rock Rails welded to the chassis, is the chassis now considered to be 5 inches wide if the rails are, at their widest point as long as they are 5 inches wide for the minimum distance?

Im not clear on this since sliders are or can be considered an extra point accessory.

[hotwheels000]

It is the body ,or area where the body would sit between the doors on a tuber. Sliders or accesories do not count in this muesurment on any rig tuber or not.

[rmdesignworks]

Thanks..kinda what I figured but wanted to make sure

[chimney]

if I understand the new rules correct a bolt on truggy back cage is no longer legal in class 2 right?

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by chimney

if I understand the new rules correct a bolt on truggy back cage is no longer legal in class 2 right?

No, I think it just means that it won't count as a truggy.

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by chimney

if I understand the new rules correct a bolt on truggy back cage is no longer legal in class 2 right?

which rule?

[R2j]

Originally Posted by chimney

if I understand the new rules correct a bolt on truggy back cage is no longer legal in class 2 right?

No it would be a tube bed. Which is legal but worth less points. Bolt on tube work is a tube bed not a truggy.

[johnnyh66]

is it this rule?
•Truggies are allowed, but you must replace the ladder frame behind the cab with tube, and the truggy rails must extend past the rear axle pumpkin to be legal. The bed must have a roll bar hoop and integrated shock mounts. It also must be a structural part of the rear of the vehicle. (If your bed does not meet ALL of the preceding criteria, it does not count as a truggy bed).

it doesn't mention no bolt on

[hotwheels000]

Originally Posted by johnnyh66

is it this rule?
•Truggies are allowed, but you must replace the ladder frame behind the cab with tube, and the truggy rails must extend past the rear axle pumpkin to be legal. The bed must have a roll bar hoop and integrated shock mounts. It also must be a structural part of the rear of the vehicle. (If your bed does not meet ALL of the preceding criteria, it does not count as a truggy bed).

it doesn't mention no bolt on

Further down in the scale points section....

•Truggy/back halved truck: metal -4, plastic -2
(Must replace the ladder frame behind the cab with tube, and must extend past the rear axle pumpkin to be legal. The bed must have a roll bar hoop and integrated shock mounts. It also must be a structural part of the rear of the vehicle. (If your bed does not meet ALL of the preceding criteria, it does not count as a truggy bed).Tube bed, roll bar, shock mount points not available in addition to truggy bed points.

So, a truggy would not be bolted on to the frame rails, it would replace it. Make sence ?

[johnnyh66]

yes...
I didn't take the "structural" part to mean weld/braze.

[hotwheels000]

I may have misread your question and made some assumptions...

If you can bolt the structure on and still replace the ladder frame along with meeting the other requirments you would be good IMO.

Although,structural integrity might be compromised.I think that is the best part of the KISS tactic/ruleset, the rules try to not dictate how you do it, just some simple guidelines to keep it even and fair for all regardless of skill set or financial backing.

Disclaimer, check with your local club or event organizer for 100% compliance

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

I may have misread your question and made some assumptions...

If you can bolt the structure on and still replace the ladder frame along with meeting the other requirments you would be good IMO.

that's what I was talking about. removing the ladder, beyond the skid, and replacing it with tube work that can be bolted on/off for tear downs and maintenance...

[chimney]

I guess I should have stated a bolt on tube chassis/bed bolted onto a scx-10 ladder frame like the ones that are sold here on RCcrawler, "No" cutting of the scx chassis, so now its not legal? wasn't it legal last year? if this is not legal then why is the honcho legal? tubes are tubes
metal or plastic.

[johnnyh66]

it's legal, just counts as a tube bed, not a truggy... if the frame rails have not been cut.
To count as a truggy, the rails have to be cut off past the skid.
and it sounds like the tube work does not need to be welded on, it can be bolted on as long as the rails are cut off?

[Difuser]

A honcho was not considered a truggy under last years rules. It was a plastic tube bed due to the trucks original ladder frame not being removed along with shock mountings not being tied into the truggy tube work thus not structural.
If you want to bolt it on it would still be legal as long as the frame was cutoff and again shocks mounted to the bolt-on structure.

[chimney]

Thanks, Thats Good To Hear.