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[4WheelRC]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Yes, you can absolutely go through the gate with your truck traveling in reverse. This rule is here so people don't drive through a gate the wrong direction and then drive back through to get progress since much of the time
the most difficult part is getting to the gate, not driving through it.

Hey thanks for the super speedy reply War Pig

[War Pig]

Sure is quiet in here.....everyone must be happy.

[sgtbham]

Well to be fair, not a lot has changed (thank you for that!!)


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[MAVERICKJK]

So, what event/class can a Wraith perform?

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by MAVERICKJK

So, what event/class can a Wraith perform?

Since a Wraith generally has 2.2" wheels and tires and does not have a rail chassis, it fits in Class 3.

Class 3 specs from the rules below.

Class-3 “Modified” Details:
• 146mm / 5.75" max tire size with a 2.2 max rim size (including spare).
• A bumper is not required, but to be counted for points it must be mounted to the vehicle's chassis and wider than the chassis rails (chassis cross rails do not count as bumpers).
• Gates will be a minimum of 13" wide.
• Class 3 body minimum specs:
Rock sliders, mirrors, etc. do not count in these measurements:

• The distance between the inside of the tires (of any axle) can be no greater than 1.25" more than the width of the body at the doors.
  *Example* (7" inside-of-tire to inside-of-tire = body must be 5.75" wide)
• The body must be at least 5" wide from the front to the rear of the doors.
• Tire height can be no more than 0.5" taller than cab height. Height is measured from the bottom of the skid to the top of the bodywork/tube not including a light bar.
  *Example*(5.5" tire = 5" tall from bottom of skid to top of cab/tube work)
• Body must be at least as long as the wheelbase of the vehicle.

• Body modifications including, but not limited to, pinched front, dove-tailing and boat-siding are permitted as long as the final dimensions comply with the minimum size rules.

As far as events. There are many events that can be run with a Wraith:

SORRCA Class 3
King of the Peaks 2.2 at SWSC
Recon G6
U4RC

[MAVERICKJK]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Since a Wraith generally has 2.2" wheels and tires and does not have a rail chassis, it fits in Class 3.

Class 3 specs from the rules below.

Class-3 “Modified” Details:
• 146mm / 5.75" max tire size with a 2.2 max rim size (including spare).
• A bumper is not required, but to be counted for points it must be mounted to the vehicle's chassis and wider than the chassis rails (chassis cross rails do not count as bumpers).
• Gates will be a minimum of 13" wide.
• Class 3 body minimum specs:

Rock sliders, mirrors, etc. do not count in these measurements:

• The distance between the inside of the tires (of any axle) can be no greater than 1.25" more than the width of the body at the doors.

• 
  *Example* (7" inside-of-tire to inside-of-tire = body must be 5.75" wide)
• The body must be at least 5" wide from the front to the rear of the doors.
• Tire height can be no more than 0.5" taller than cab height. Height is measured from the bottom of the skid to the top of the bodywork/tube not including a light bar.
  *Example*(5.5" tire = 5" tall from bottom of skid to top of cab/tube work)
• Body must be at least as long as the wheelbase of the vehicle.

• Body modifications including, but not limited to, pinched front, dove-tailing and boat-siding are permitted as long as the final dimensions comply with the minimum size rules.

As far as events. There are many events that can be run with a Wraith:

SORRCA Class 3
King of the Peaks 2.2 at SWSC
Recon G6
U4RC

Thanks, but the thread that lead to my question...
CTXRCC Scale Comp: Feb 15th, Belton Texas
Had an embedded thread for SORRCA scale rules
2014 SORRCA Scale rules
which stated:

•You must run a rail chassis (for example: Bruiser/Mountaineer, SCX-10, Reign RC K2-3S, 3L, 4, 5, MFM, X-Trail, CR-01, UTE, etc...). No TVP (twin vertical plate) chassis' or frame rail extensions on a TVPs. Tub chassis' are allowed, but chassis must be covered by the body and follow all other scale rules per class guidelines. An example of a tub chassis vehicle is CC-01, DF01, Twin Hammers, etc.

I read that as frame rails, not tube frame. i.e. no Wraith.

[R2j]

Originally Posted by MAVERICKJK

Thanks, but the thread that lead to my question...
CTXRCC Scale Comp: Feb 15th, Belton Texas
Had an embedded thread for SORRCA scale rules
2014 SORRCA Scale rules
which stated:

•You must run a rail chassis (for example: Bruiser/Mountaineer, SCX-10, Reign RC K2-3S, 3L, 4, 5, MFM, X-Trail, CR-01, UTE, etc...). No TVP (twin vertical plate) chassis' or frame rail extensions on a TVPs. Tub chassis' are allowed, but chassis must be covered by the body and follow all other scale rules per class guidelines. An example of a tub chassis vehicle is CC-01, DF01, Twin Hammers, etc.

I read that as frame rails, not tube frame. i.e. no Wraith.

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Sorry for the confusion. I see how you could mix up general specifications with class specifications. Wraiths fit into Class3 as WarPig stated above becuase of the tube chassis. So your good to go for C3

[Lokithered]

Class 2 question
So picking up to 2 of the 3 body/chassy mods:
pinching
boatsides
dove tail
overrides guide lines for the various body styles as long as the pinching, boatside, and dove tailing guide lines are followed right?

[R2j]

Originally Posted by Lokithered

Class 2 question
So picking up to 2 of the 3 body/chassy mods:
pinching
boatsides
dove tail
overrides guide lines for the various body styles as long as the pinching, boatside, and dove tailing guide lines are followed right?

As long as you follow Class 2 guidelines on said mods, your golden.

[Absurd]

I had a few questions, mainly for class one, ww2 ferret aka scout truck
Would the new chassis choice allow me to build a tub for this to be used? There was some designs for a rear but no front bumper to make it exact scale it won't have a front bumper would this disqualify it?

Another question are muilty axles rigs allowed in class 1? And ones with 1:1 unified steering aka 3-6 axles turning at once be allowed? And would it be restricted to one steering servo?

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Absurd

I had a few questions, mainly for class one, ww2 ferret aka scout truck
Would the new chassis choice allow me to build a tub for this to be used? There was some designs for a rear but no front bumper to make it exact scale it won't have a front bumper would this disqualify it?

Another question are muilty axles rigs allowed in class 1? And ones with 1:1 unified steering aka 3-6 axles turning at once be allowed? And would it be restricted to one steering servo?

Alright, let me see if I can tackle this one. I assume that this Ferret has a tub type chassis? If you're making it true to scale then yes that would be fine. Also, I'm assuming that the truck has a front end that will protrude out past the front of the tires. As long as it has something rigid that would touch a flat wall before the tires do then it's fine. We really want people to build scale "true to life" rigs and this one should be an exception to a few of the rules.

As far as multi axles in Class 1....sure! As long as the front axles are the ones steering and not the rear ones it's legal. Most of these rules are here to limit the amount of performance that people can build into their Class 1 rigs. It sounds like you are more after the scale aspect of it....that's awesome. I say build away.....I'd fight for you! Later, Tim.

[Absurd]

Yes I plan on it being a Rc model more so then anything but wanted the chance to do class 1 if able
Ferret Light Scout Car

[War Pig]

Bitchin! Build it!

[sgtbham]

I'm just curious; is there any way to make a "mud truck" legal for scale comps? Or is the tube work below the rockers enough to make it a TVP and therefore illegal?




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[TURTLE]

Uhhhh... Might have to get back to you on that one.

Out of curiosity is there any particular reason you would want too? Mud trucks are kinda a single serving vehicle aren't they? I can't picture one crawling all that well...

[sgtbham]

You're completely right, it's just that I am in charge of tech for an upcoming comp and I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to answer this very question.


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[MudHoncho]

Lol you totally will be asked that question


Ohio Rc Scale Gurus!!

[sally1800]

[QUOTE=War Pig;4653828]S

• The distance between the inside of the tires (of any axle) can be no greater than 1.25" more than the width of the body at the doors.
  *Example* (7" inside-of-tire to inside-of-tire = body must be 5.75" wide)

Originally Posted by War Pig

You measure it at the width of the body at the doors. If it measures 5.5" then it's at least wide enough to be legal (must be 5" wide from the front to the rear of the doors), but with an inside tire to inside of tire width of 7" then the body-to-track-width ratio is too high. You would have to widen the body a bit or narrow the track width.



That's not going to do unless it's 5.75" at the front and rear of the doors.

Rule does not state this. I'm thinking if you can measure a section that would be the max width of the truck.

If I measure window to window it is 5.75. Kinda tucks in at the sliders.

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by War Pig

You measure it at the width of the body at the doors. If it measures 5.5" then it's at least wide enough to be legal (must be 5" wide from the front to the rear of the doors), but with an inside tire to inside of tire width of 7" then the body-to-track-width ratio is too high. You would have to widen the body a bit or narrow the track width.

I guess if it the base of the door complete front to back makes sense.

On to the hunt for XR width

[Absurd]

Originally Posted by sally1800

I guess if it the base of the door complete front to back makes sense.

On to the hunt for XR width