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[Constant Threat]

RCBros. That's what doesn't make sense to me. Aesthetically dlux knuckles really aren't that different from RCBros once wheels are on.

[holycaveman]

I don't run knuckle weights. But i got to hear the reasoning why d lux 95$ knuckles that are weighed are allowed. But my own or say like blue monkeys are not.

This ought to be interesting.

[AkronAxial]

Originally Posted by R2j

Nope still axle mounted.

How? The links/mounts and the axles are two totally separate components. I'm not understanding this. Not to mention the vehicle is bone stock and configured this way.

Kind of gets me the same way that no TVP's are allowed even if the TVP is done in such a way as to be a full length chassis.

We need a new set of rules to go by, I think. This one is obviously broken. Kind of crappy that nobody will admit they are at fault or wrong on something so they refuse to make the necessary changes to fix it.

[holycaveman]

I have a friend that made his own knuckle weights and evend painted them black and drilled them to make them look scale.. Now he can't run them. But he can buy someone else's and be just fine.

Court is in session on this reasoning. Just would like to hear a honest answer on this.

[crawl33oh]

Originally Posted by R2j

Because it is not scale. There happy?

Was that so hard to say 6 pages ago?


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[boob dude]

Originally Posted by crawl33oh

Atleast someone agrees with me, but the almighty SORRCA has banished it to the forbidden lands where which nothing can be asked about


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Okay let's try this again, it hasn't been banished to forbidden land. This topic was brought up when the truck was released.
The battery mount was discussed at length in the public forum and debated in the closed SORCCA forum for over probably 3 weeks. After the voting for the 2015 rules package, the committee voted that it wasn't legal because it was mounted to the axle in the front.
So to try to answer your question why?

1- we are trying to keep things as scale as possible
2- we are also concerned that allowing this, that everyone would attach their
Batteries to there links and axle just like a comp rig. And trust me this would
only open up a can of worms.
3- I won't argue that what they are doing isn't a good idea, but just because
a manufacture does something doesn't mean that it will be legal, just ask
Proline
4- I'm sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, there are 21 members on the
SORCCA committee from all over the country. Some of the committee
Members have never met except on the forum and never in person. ( so you
can't really say good old boys club either) And a lot of the topics have heated debates going both ways, I hope that you can understand that it's
hard to make everyone happy all the time.

In the end just try to remember we're just driving hobby grade toy trucks, and enjoy yourself and try not to get caught up in all the politics.

[holycaveman]

That's the best answer yet. And the best avatar. Win/win!

[crawl33oh]

Originally Posted by boob dude

Okay let's try this again, it hasn't been banished to forbidden land. This topic was brought up when the truck was released.

The battery mount was discussed at length in the public forum and debated in the closed SORCCA forum for over probably 3 weeks. After the voting for the 2015 rules package, the committee voted that it wasn't legal because it was mounted to the axle in the front.

So to try to answer your question why?



1- we are trying to keep things as scale as possible

2- we are also concerned that allowing this, that everyone would attach their

Batteries to there links and axle just like a comp rig. And trust me this would

only open up a can of worms.

3- I won't argue that what they are doing isn't a good idea, but just because

a manufacture does something doesn't mean that it will be legal, just ask

Proline

4- I'm sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, there are 21 members on the

SORCCA committee from all over the country. Some of the committee

Members have never met except on the forum and never in person. ( so you

can't really say good old boys club either) And a lot of the topics have heated debates going both ways, I hope that you can understand that it's

hard to make everyone happy all the time.



In the end just try to remember we're just driving hobby grade toy trucks, and enjoy yourself and try not to get caught up in all the politics.

I agree, you have a good point people will abuse it, but you could also make a limit rule to it. Just like the exception to the CC01, the Ascender comes from the factory that way, could make only the Ascender an exception. I'm all for making things as scale as possible within my building limits and trying new things, but there are somethings that are legal that are absolutely ridiculous and shouldn't be



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[boob dude]

Originally Posted by AkronAxial

How? The links/mounts and the axles are two totally separate components. I'm not understanding this. Not to mention the vehicle is bone stock and configured this way.

Kind of gets me the same way that no TVP's are allowed even if the TVP is done in such a way as to be a full length chassis.

We need a new set of rules to go by, I think. This one is obviously broken. Kind of crappy that nobody will admit they are at fault or wrong on something so they refuse to make the necessary changes to fix it.

Feel free to start your own club, forum, and rules committee no one is holding a gun to your head and making you play

[R2j]

Originally Posted by Constant Threat

RCBros. That's what doesn't make sense to me. Aesthetically dlux knuckles really aren't that different from RCBros once wheels are on.

The comp ring style are unfortunately the ones that are not legal. The DLux would be just the knuckle that is legal.

This also was debated quite vigorously, but when voted on, it didn't favor the comp style weights. Sorry, just trying to keep things as scale as possible.

[R2j]

Originally Posted by crawl33oh

Was that so hard to say 6 pages ago?


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[holycaveman]

Originally Posted by R2j

The comp ring style are unfortunately the ones that are not legal. The DLux would be just the knuckle that is legal.

This also was debated quite vigorously, but when voted on, it didn't favor the comp style weights. Sorry, just trying to keep things as scale as possible.

I know I am not alone here.

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by ToyZuki

I just wanted to say thank you to the committee members. I can't imagine the amount of time you guys put into discussing the nitty gritty of every aspect of each rule. Trying your best to word it so HW000 can't read around it, keeping it fair and simple, and trying to please everyone. You guys do a great job every year. On top of that you have the patience to listen to the masses criticizing what you've worked so hard to archive without getting upset! Looking forward to seeing you all at nationals!

Wished everyone felt like this, it's alot of work more than I ever thought it would be thanks Ben

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by holycaveman

I know I am not alone here. But i think you guys are overstepping your bounds a little on what is scale and what is not. Just saying.

Good God can we go like 10 minutes without drama, I'm going to bed I don't have enough energy for this
Good luck maybe Double J can help he has more patients than most

[holycaveman]

Originally Posted by boob dude

Good God can we go like 10 minutes without drama, I'm going to bed I don't have enough energy for this
Good luck maybe Double J can help he has more patients than most

No drama. Just a legit question.

Glad I don't run knuckle weights.

[holycaveman]

I still dig the avatar!

[R2j]

Originally Posted by holycaveman

I know I am not alone here. But i think you guys are overstepping your bounds a little on what is scale and what is not. Just saying.

Since SORRCA is the group that is taking the time to make and organize the rules, I think they do have a say in what is scale or not. This is the scale side of the hobby right?

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by holycaveman

No drama. Just a legit question obviously.

Glad I don't run knuckle weights.

And you say "glad you don't run them" what does it matter to you then.

Yes it is a legit question for someone that has dog in the fight, not for starting shit just for the hell of it.

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by holycaveman

I still dig the avatar!

Thanks I like it too

[holycaveman]

Originally Posted by R2j

Since SORRCA is the group that is taking the time to make and organize the rules, I think they do have a say in what is scale or not. This is the scale side of the hobby right?

I think this is the answer I was looking for.

We are the scale side of the hobby. The people I trail with and go to events with.

Everyone appreciates hard work and effort. Especially the event organizers. Which are a rare breed anymore. But things have to make sense my friend. And this one didnt until now.

I am pretty much done with it no worries. Just was looking for a honest answer. And I believe you gave me one, seriously. So thanks.