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[1BadJeepBruiser]

Originally Posted by 1BadJeepBruiser

Personally I think this shouldn't be allowed... If your not allowing comp style knuckle weights then how is this any better ?? I get that the axial axle isn't the most scale axle but I think if your adding weight, it should have to be done in a scale manner not just doubled sided taped to the axle or zip tied. Any added additional weight should have to be "out of site"... Just like how the battery and other electronics have to be.

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

Thinking about it, that terminology could be eliminated since it already states in the rules that only the steering servo can be mounted on the axle.

Because I really could careless about this vaterra battery tray BS, can we instead address this ?

Is it or is it not legal to mount a bunch of stick on weights or zip tie weights to the axles ??

[Scrap]

Knuckle weights are illegal because they are not scale. Weights zip tied to the axle are legal because they are scale.... erm.... You know what I mean.

[Olle P]

Originally Posted by Scrap

Just leave out the screw that attaches the ascender battery mount to the axle and you are legal. ...

Which of the three screws is that?

There are two screws connecting to the chassis and one holding a ball connected to a link.
No screw connects the battery tray to the axle AFAIK.

If being attached to a link attached to the axle is considered "axle mounted" then of course electronics stuck to the chassis is mounted not only to one, but to ALL axles at once and therefore very illegal.

[R2j]

Originally Posted by 1BadJeepBruiser

Because I really could careless about this vaterra battery tray BS, can we instead address this ?

Is it or is it not legal to mount a bunch of stick on weights or zip tie weights to the axles ??

Hopefully the battery issue is done. I know I'm done talking about it.

I agree with you on the use of stick on weights on the axle and will put it on our list of things to discuss.

[jeepgeek2002]

some of the guys in my group started stretching 1.9 tires on 2.2 rims.. is this legal?

[Scrap]

Why wouldn't it be legal? 2.2 wheels are perfectly legal in all classes.

Just as long as the tyre being streched is within the size limit for the class the vehicle is aimed for.

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by jeepgeek2002

some of the guys in my group started stretching 1.9 tires on 2.2 rims.. is this legal?

Yes it's legal, I do the same thing with the Proline 1.9 XL

[Exocaged]

The only issue I have is with the scoring is penalties for winching ( recovery ) and reversing. Those are 2 very normal things to do when wheeling. Seems to me you are wanting us to drive in these comps with scale vehicles but with comp penalties. The only penalty for winching or reversing should be the actual time it takes to do it.

[johnnyh66]

Originally Posted by Exocaged

The only issue I have is with the scoring is penalties for winching ( recovery ) and reversing. Those are 2 very normal things to do when wheeling. Seems to me you are wanting us to drive in these comps with scale vehicles but with comp penalties. The only penalty for winching or reversing should be the actual time it takes to do it.

Gotta point people somehow or there would be a lot of ties... a lot of perfect runs. I guess then you could use time to determine the winner but that's no fun.

[Exocaged]

In the G6 style events I put on I've never penalized for winching, self recovery, assisted recovery or reversing. I've had a few close scores but never a tie. The time decides the winner.

Heck, in some events I give bonuses to those who stop and help others who are in trouble.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Exocaged

In the G6 style events I put on I've never penalized for winching, self recovery, assisted recovery or reversing. I've had a few close scores but never a tie. The time decides the winner.

Heck, in some events I give bonuses to those who stop and help others who are in trouble.

G6 events are completely different from SORRCA events. You're comparing apples to oranges. G6 is all about time and fun. SORRCA is all about driving a course with the lowest score......and fun. Great to have so many choices!

[Exocaged]

Thank you War Pig. I appreciate that clarification.

[holycaveman]

At first I thought the winching penalties sucked. Then i realized you could just winch yourself through the whole course never hitting a gate. So with the potential saving of 3 points for a winch penalty it makes you at least want to atempt it.

[Exocaged]

True I see your point but most everyone I run with would rather try to bounce through it than winch due to the time it takes. If you winched most of the gates you would still hit plenty and have a horribly slow time or even time out.

[holycaveman]

Yea it's a catch 22. I am a driver. And I hate losing. So no matter the points for or against I am going to try and do my best.

With good driving and a good truck you usually never have to winch. But there is always that one course! LOL

[1BadJeepBruiser]

Originally Posted by R2j

Hopefully the battery issue is done. I know I'm done talking about it.

I agree with you on the use of stick on weights on the axle and will put it on our list of things to discuss.

Yeah if you guys could address this ASAP I think that would be a good idea before some tool box shows up to an event with a pound of sticky weights stuck to his axles

[holycaveman]

Originally Posted by 1BadJeepBruiser

Yeah if you guys could address this ASAP I think that would be a good idea before some tool box shows up to an event with a pound of sticky weights stuck to his axles

LOL.

I am with bad. I mean you are scale or not? No sticky weights and no brass showing. Fair is fair.

[RcBro]

I slightly understand why my knuckle weights are not allowed. However I also feel I could easily cut an outer beauty ring to mimic a disk brake to make them look more scale. And or decal sheets.

If it's a small appearance argument I would argue that all the options I've seen do not look scale until cosmetic steps are taken to fix that issue.

None the less, a set of brass burly tubes are way cooler lmao.


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[eric113]

For national events if a rig meets the requirements for 2 classes, can it be sign up and ran in 2 classes?

[R2j]

Originally Posted by eric113

For national events if a rig meets the requirements for 2 classes, can it be sign up and ran in 2 classes?

What did you have in mind, just switching tires? I don't see why not. If I remember right, didn't Jerry(boobdude) run his Tundra in both C2 and C3.