SORCCA rules comments, suggestions, and questions

[neillarson]

No, the C3 tire size should never have been set to the largest tire that was available, since it is the Modified class, it should be set to 6" to give room for growth and changes from the manufacturers.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by War Pig

So what, every time a manufacturer comes out with something that doesn't fit in the SORCCA rules we're just supposed to change the rules? That sets a bad precedence......the manufacturers know the rules and max sizes for each class, complain to them. If you really have to run these tires, Class 3 allows cut-and-shut tires, take a lug out so they are legal.

Sorry, didn't mean to be trouble.
And NO , you can't change the rules everytime a manufactor comes out with something out of the rules. I agree with that 100% .

I just always felt the rule should have been 6 inch all along.
RC4WD has listen to their customers and gave them what they want. It's not like they aren't going to sell any tires cause of the rule.
I just thought it would be a nice tire to have in class 3.


I guess a guy could take a lug out, or remeasure them and change the spec. I 'll have a set soon. I'll bet they are short of 5.8, but it's what the manufactors specs says, right.

Rules are rules and I'll follow them, just something I thought the committee could talk about.

I'm just 1 old guy with a opinion, don't mind me.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by neillarson

No, the C3 tire size should never have been set to the largest tire that was available, since it is the Modified class, it should be set to 6" to give room for growth and changes from the manufacturers.

The 2.2 Rok Lox was the biggest tire (5.5") when we made the rules at 5.75" and after we finalized them RC4WD came out with the MT TTC and Bogger tire at 5.75".

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Sorry, didn't mean to be trouble.
And NO , you can't change the rules everytime a manufactor comes out with something out of the rules. I agree with that 100% .

I just always felt the rule should have been 6 inch all along.
RC4WD has listen to their customers and gave them what they want. It's not like they aren't going to sell any tires cause of the rule.
I just thought it would be a nice tire to have in class 3.


I guess a guy could take a lug out, or remeasure them and change the spec. I 'll have a set soon. I'll bet they are short of 5.8, but it's what the manufactors specs says, right.

Rules are rules and I'll follow them, just something I thought the committee could talk about.

I'm just 1 old guy with a opinion, don't mind me.

Your not being trouble, I just want people to understand that the rules are here, and the manufacturers know what they are.

You all need to understand that even if 6" tires are legal, it doesn't mean that they look good on all Class 3 vehicles. They would look like crap on my '34D, but I would feel the need to run the biggest tires possible to be competitive. I don't want all the Class 3 rigs to look like Supers, which is the direction it's going without some rules to keep them looking like scale trucks.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by War Pig

The 2.2 Rok Lox was the biggest tire (5.5") when we made the rules at 5.75" and after we finalized them RC4WD came out with the MT TTC and Bogger tire at 5.75".



Your not being trouble, I just want people to understand that the rules are here, and the manufacturers know what they are.

You all need to understand that even if 6" tires are legal, it doesn't mean that they look good on all Class 3 vehicles. They would look like crap on my '34D, but I would feel the need to run the biggest tires possible to be competitive. I don't want all the Class 3 rigs to look like Supers, which is the direction it's going without some rules to keep them looking like scale trucks.

They might look like crap on your 34, but they would look great on other people's rigs. If you have to run the biggest tire out there ,then build a rig around that tire. We are talking about class 3, most 1:1 class 3 trucks don't look like your normal truck, thats what class 2 and 1 are for. Rigs with 4 wheel steer, dig and what not have huge tires.
I guess I might be running on my redneck coolness.

You should come to the Big Meat Challenge at Disney, Oklahoma sometime and then you'll see what I'm talking about.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

I'm building the red and white bronco at the begaining, tell me that the new tire won't fit that rig perfect. He's running 49s . 49s at 8th scale ,I would need a tire at 6.125. But I'm happy with 5.8. The 5.5 I have are just to small and make my rig look funny.

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[sloppy]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Rules are rules and I'll follow them, just something I thought the committee could talk about.

I'm just 1 old guy with a opinion, don't mind me.

We are talking about it..

and you are old

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by sloppy

We are talking about it..

and you are old

Thats good to hear. You'll be old some day too.

[joeyf]

there's no reason to change the rules for this new tire. as i see it you have 6 month to were them down to spec.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by joeyf

there's no reason to change the rules for this new tire. as i see it you have 6 month to were them down to spec.

We go by what the manufactor's spec. says, not a tape measure.

[joeyf]

but you can mod tires in C3 so manufactor spec's dont really matter.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by joeyf

but you can mod tires in C3 so manufactor spec's dont really matter.

So here are the rules for Class 3. Because the tire actually has the measurement on the sidewall we have to go by that measurement.

Tire size will be determined by advertised manufacturer specs (tires without available specs will be measured off the truck as mounted on the wheel laid flat).

•Tire modification:
Class-3 Modified. Tire reduction and narrowing is permitted, as well as all modifications listed above.

• 146mm / 5.75" max tire size with a 2.2 max rim size (including spare).

[joeyf]

so what you are saying is even if i reduce a tires it will still be out of spec because you have go by whats on the side wall. just kidding

[hotwheels000]

I think what Joey is saying that wear or modified/accelerated wear would be a modification and therefor fall under the C3 mod rule,not manufacture specs. It really wouldnt be any different than cut and shut or lug trimming to acheive said hieght requirments as long as when measured, they actually meet the hieght rule.

Is that where you are going with this Joey ?

[joeyf]

yes

[War Pig]

Cool, I guess if you take .025 off each lug, it will be within spec.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Cool, I guess if you take .025 off each lug, it will be within spec.

And I'll bet money the tire will be .025 less right out of the mold.

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

We go by what the manufactor's spec. says, not a tape measure.

Originally Posted by War Pig

So here are the rules for Class 3. Because the tire actually has the measurement on the sidewall we have to go by that measurement.

Tire size will be determined by advertised manufacturer specs (tires without available specs will be measured off the truck as mounted on the wheel laid flat).

•Tire modification:
Class-3 Modified. Tire reduction and narrowing is permitted, as well as all modifications listed above.

• 146mm / 5.75" max tire size with a 2.2 max rim size (including spare).

Originally Posted by War Pig

Cool, I guess if you take .025 off each lug, it will be within spec.

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

And I'll bet money the tire will be .025 less right out of the mold.

So if a person shave or reduces a tire then there measured? Would you think that everyone will say they shaved to fix in spec?

I have not seen many tire match the company size on the side wall,

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by saydee1800

So if a person shave or reduces a tire then there measured? Would you think that everyone will say they shaved to fix in spec?

I have not seen many tire match the company size on the side wall,

So I'm assuming that this is what you are trying to say:

"So a person shaves or reduces a tire, and then they're measured? Wouldn't you think that everyone will say they that shaved it to fit within spec?

I have not seen many tires where the tire size matches the size on the sidewall."

If you'd take a little time to look at what you type, it would be easier to answer your question Brian.

So yes, in Class 3 where major tire modifications are legal, I suppose it would be legal to shave .025" off the OD of the tire to get it within SORCCA specs. No other tire is 5.8" OD, so you wouldn't have to do that any other tire to make it legal. You could also cut the tire down and remove one lug, that would bring it within spec as well.

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by War Pig

So yes, in Class 3 where major tire modifications are legal, I suppose it would be legal to shave .025" off the OD of the tire to get it within SORCCA specs. No other tire is 5.8" OD, so you wouldn't have to do that any other tire to make it legal. You could also cut the tire down and remove one lug, that would bring it within spec as well.

Sorry I was rushing to walk out the door. But yes you got what I was thinking.

Problem I see is. People can make these fit without touching them being that there so close to legal size. Foam, rim width, tire wear.

How easy it would be to make them fit and then rulers will have to be used. That throws the hole Company spec. size rule out the door.

I do see your point that rules where made for 2012 every one or company knew of last years rules and should have made sure to fit into spec.

If you change the rule to say 6in who to say some one will not make a 6.05 tire the next time or year.

[JHTreyIII]

Sorry if this question has been asked before. Is the Dinky RC wraith cargo box considered a drop bed? It's pretty deep. It's got to be 1.5" or so. Or does this only apply to a pickup style drop bed.