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[JesterSpec]

These rules are hard to tell from the photo-

• the chassis (including bumpers) must be 3" longer than the wheelbase (this includes a chassis with a truggy rear frame).
• A front bumper is required and must be mounted to the vehicle's rail chassis and must be wider than the outside of the chassis rails (chassis cross rails do not count as bumpers)

We would let you run at our Comp's, but we arn't picky.

[Ambis]

Hi guys!

If I add rear fender wells to a stock Honcho, do I get -1 points for it?

The point being, there are no rear fenders per say in the Honcho bed...

[R2j]

Originally Posted by Ambis

Hi guys!

If I add rear fender wells to a stock Honcho, do I get -1 points for it?

The point being, there are no rear fenders per say in the Honcho bed...

I would say no. But you are still getting tube bed point and -1 or more is not that hard to come up with usually.

[Ambis]

Originally Posted by R2j

I would say no. But you are still getting tube bed point and -1 or more is not that hard to come up with usually.

Yeah I was using the RTR honcho just to make the question simpler.

My (very-non-RTR) Honcho is currently somewhere around -30p.

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[R_2]

ok, have read this whole thread and few questions popped out..



This is my wraiths drop box at back, quite similar to Dinkys.. clearly this doesnt count as drop bed as previusly stated but does this give -1 fo 3D gargo area?

And second question:
From where do you measure wraiths widht of chassis, for widht of bumpers being awarded for points? At our forum Scrap remembered something like the skidplate + tubes attached to it..?

edit:
Well, went already and made some kind of bumper...



~1,5cm wider than the skidplate...

[yoda@4x4]

You must run a full rail chassis, and the chassis (including bumpers) must be 3" longer than the wheelbase (this includes a chassis with a truggy rear frame).

how would be the best why to measure for this

Center of axle straight up and then across to end of frame/bumper

And the 3" would be split between front and rear

yoda4x4

[R_2]

My wraith is for class 3, and it is according to this topic legal in that class..

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Question about Wraiths "chassis widht" remains..

[yoda@4x4]

Question I can't find any were in the rules that saying any thing about NOT being aloud to drop the skidplate/transmission mount down.

If there is can you show me were and a dissriptuion of what is a load and what is not...

I am not talking TVP style or mega truck I mean a simple adjustment for link angle or center of gravity.

yoda4x4

[hotwheels000]

Originally Posted by yoda@4x4

You must run a full rail chassis, and the chassis (including bumpers) must be 3" longer than the wheelbase (this includes a chassis with a truggy rear frame).

how would be the best why to measure for this

Center of axle straight up and then across to end of frame/bumper

And the 3" would be split between front and rear

yoda4x4

Measure chassis tip to tail, measure wheelbase.... subtract WB from Chassis length... is there greater than 3" difference ? If so you are good. It doesnt matter where the 3" lies in relation to the axles.

[R2j]

Originally Posted by R_2

ok, have read this whole thread and few questions popped out..



This is my wraiths drop box at back, quite similar to Dinkys.. clearly this doesnt count as drop bed as previusly stated but does this give -1 fo 3D gargo area?

And second question:
From where do you measure wraiths widht of chassis, for widht of bumpers being awarded for points? At our forum Scrap remembered something like the skidplate + tubes attached to it..?

edit:
Well, went already and made some kind of bumper...



~1,5cm wider than the skidplate...

• A bumper is not required, but to be counted for points it must be mounted to the vehicle's chassis and
wider than the chassis rails (chassis cross rails do not count as bumpers).

[GiJoe]

I know this has been covered before, But what is the final verdict on the legality of RC4WD 1.9 Boggers in Class 2?

I've heard they are legal, but RC4WD site says 4.79"? However...My calipers read 4.75" on the nose.

We have a comp this weekend and people are asking!

Interco Super Swamper 1.9 TSL/Bogger Scale Tire

[R2j]

Originally Posted by GiJoe

I know this has been covered before, But what is the final verdict on the legality of RC4WD 1.9 Boggers in Class 2?

I've heard they are legal, but RC4WD site says 4.79"? However...My calipers read 4.75" on the nose.

We have a comp this weekend and people are asking!

Interco Super Swamper 1.9 TSL/Bogger Scale Tire

They are legal for Class 2.

[skerb]

Does the rear storage area in a Newbright tj or jk count as a drop bed? Or would that just get the -1 for SUV cargo area

[War Pig]

-1 SUV cargo area

[ima_redneck]

Can you get points for a rear stinger as well as a front one?

[R2j]

Originally Posted by ima_redneck

Can you get points for a rear stinger as well as a front one?

Thanks for the good question. I would say no because of how it is stated in the rule as Stinger/grill guard, meaning front of rig.



Bumpers: (items must be chassis mounted and separate from the body)
• Bumpers: metal -3 each, plastic -1 each
• Stinger/grill guard: -1

[Absurd]

Originally Posted by R2j

Thanks for the good question. I would say no because of how it is stated in the rule as Stinger/grill guard, meaning front of rig.



Bumpers: (items must be chassis mounted and separate from the body)
• Bumpers: metal -3 each, plastic -1 each
• Stinger/grill guard: -1

Always wondered this what if I have a rear stinger and a full front bumper ?

[sgtbham]

When comparing a bumper for C1 specs do you count it against the windshield at its widest point or its narrowest point? (it can vary greatly on some bodies)

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Absurd

Always wondered this what if I have a rear stinger and a full front bumper ?

The stinger/grill guard would have to be in front to count. To many variables if we allow it in the rear.

Originally Posted by sgtbham

When comparing a bumper for C1 specs do you count it against the windshield at its widest point or its narrowest point? (it can vary greatly on some bodies)

If your windshield varies in width, I'd average it. If it's 5" at the top and 6" at the bottom, your bumper should be 5 1/2" wide. Only way to be fair.

[ima_redneck]

Just curious about the variables. I have full front and rear bumpers, both with stingers and winch mounts. C2 rig.